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Topic: Play 'You Ain't Going Nowhere' by the Byrds |
William Johnson
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Posted 31 Jan 2005 8:45 pm |
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Does anyone play 'You Ain't Going Nowhere' version by the Byrds? L. Green played nteh steel part on Sweet Heart of the Rodeo by teh Byrds. It was written by Bob Dylan.
I would ove to have tab on that.
Billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
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Steve Hitsman
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Waterloo, IL
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 4:00 am
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| I used to play it. I think I have tab somewhere... I'll look. |
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Bob Carlucci
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 5:31 am
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| Billy.. .. I bet if you listen through those steel parts and work on them, you would be able to "think them through".. They are fairly easy parts for most E9 players to figure out unless you are just starting out. Why not try to nail them without the tab?? bob |
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Steve Hitsman
From:
Waterloo, IL
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:00 am
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| What Bob said. |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:02 am
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well, i play it somewhat but not exactly correct. there are a few 'dittys' that i can find. not starting out but have put it down for about 7 years (after a damm car about turned me off!). I have trouble with the quicker parts and with the 'crisp' blocks.
i bet that was a sweet session. it was done in Nashville with L. Green as hired gun for the Byrds in 1968-69 i think. not that quick but classic chops!
BTW: has anyone listened to Clarence White any? old guitar played for the Byrds, etc.
he develpoed the Tele B-Bender and sold it to Fender in the late '60s. he's about as quick and clean as it gets (early chicken picker).
later
Billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:18 am
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| Try these 2 (P) file:///Users/eric/Documents/E9%20songs/You%20Ain't%20Goin'%20Nowhere%22%20-%20The%20Steel%20Guitar%20Forum.html (P) and (Pfile:///Users/eric/Documents/E9%20songs/You%20Ain't%20Going%20Nowhere%22%20Intro%20-%20The%20Steel%20Guitar%20Forum.html |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:25 am
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| Billy .. You will find LOTS of Clarance White fans here!.. He was the prototype for todays "hot tele pickers".. and he was doing it 40 years ago!!... bob |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 6:31 am
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| Billy one more thing.. If you can get the "feel" and the "heart" of what Lloyd put down on that great tune, I would not be too concerned about getting everything note for note. Get it clean,with good tone,and if you have to inject a little of yourself in there,go with it. Get it so it sounds good.. like YOU would have played the session,and don't be overly concerned about copying every note Lloyd played. Thats what many of us do... bob |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 7:57 am
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i am really digging this forum! i am 54 (might say hippie) and really got into the west coast laid back sound hitting hard in '69 or so! yea, Mr White was hot and your are right, all the pickers doing that sound now got from Mr. White. he was 30 years ahead of his time!!! shame he got ran down by a drunk driver in Florda while putting guitar in the truck of his car.
BTW: who digs Gram Parsons music? try 'I've Lied', 'Thats All It Took', 'Brand New HeartAche' and others. 'Sin City' is sweet as is 'Return of the Grievous Angel' which where i got my studio's name from "Grievous Angel Productions". he is "My Man", i.e. written by Bernie Leadon for Gram after GPs death in '71 i think. if you are into GP get the book about him. goes into where 'Dead Flowers', 'Wild HOrses' and others came from (Gram lived with K. Richards (Stones) and his wife Anita in S. France for about 2 years. "Dead Flowers' was written about some flowers Kieth and Gram (received via jet) from some groupies in the States that arrived dead. thats all that took.
check out my web site, i have a page or so devoted to GP. www.grievousangelpro.com
later,
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 8:21 am
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| Billy.. you and I are on the same wavelength musically. The Burritos[with and without Gram] were a BIG influence on this old hippie too! Gram Parsons was 30 years ahead of his time also. Oh by the way,I still sing Dead Flowers with my band. I don't play steel on it like I did back in the 70's but I may start doing so again! I really Like NRPS version of that song! "Take me down little Suzie take me down".. "I know you think you're the queen of the underground" ... Ah, them were the good old days.. bob [This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 01 February 2005 at 08:32 AM.] |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 8:39 am
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we need to get together and hangout some.
my studio is in SE Georgia. pass it arond, we do unlimited session time on a 74 min CD. pro sound with 1000 glass mastered CD with art, etc. for $4995! $45 to $30 (4 hour block to 40 hour block) per hour straight time. we do short run CDRs 500 per day in-house with thermal label on silver CDRs in a slim case (100 for $140).
i ahve not spent enought time on steel to due studio and live sound gigs. i/ve also played ons stage for 20+ years i guess. a few times in 20-30K seat arenas. what a rush!
later,
Billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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Jack Abraham
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 9:36 am
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Ditto & Ditto. Anytime that I see mention of the Byrds/Gram Parsons, it gets my attention.
From time-to-time, we will pick an artist and/or a particular piece of work and highlight the music for one of our weekly gigs. I have a "standing-order" in to do a Sweetheart of the Rodeo "night". I need to remind my cohorts that we need to get this one done!
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Steve Hitsman
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Waterloo, IL
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 9:37 am
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| Ya know the steel player on the studio version of "That's All It Took" is none other than The Big E. |
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Michael Lewis
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 10:15 am
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Hey Billy and Bob and any other gently aging hippies! I'm 53 and musically brought up on similar turf. If you guys ever get to the Ft. Lauderdale, Fl. area, look me up! I'd welcome the opportunity to visit!
Mike
72 D10 Emmons, Nashville 1000 |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 10:36 am
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| ML.. I only WISH I were aging gently... I am aging in massive shuddering convulsive spasms.... bob |
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Jeff Garden
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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 10:46 am
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| For anyone interested in that whole West Coast Gram Parsons/Chris Hillman sound (and the steel to go with it!) check out Mike Headrick's Steels on Wheels CD - all instrumental tribute to Gram and Chris tunes and some great pedal steel. His website is www.countrydiscovery.com |
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Mark Lind-Hanson
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Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 10:54 am
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Hi- I am a Clarence White fan, I just want to correct your info about Clarence's accident- it took place in California (Palmdale)not FL.
He was loading an amp in back of his car, was hit by a drunk lady & died in hosp; after being flung 70 feet (w/massive concussion). CW is buried in Lancaster,CA- there are several good CW websites you might google (Clarence White Forum, Clarence White.com is I believe run by his surviving daughter.)
-& Byrds websites... We all owe Clarence a heap & what a hard way to go, too- American music's loss. |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 11:05 am
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yea. who is Big E? great steel, not extrmely fast but cares. if its in the pocket with sweet notes that talk to your of some plane, its great. listen to J. Garcia's stuff, i.e 'Momma Tried" to me that is a great guitar part.
Yep, NRPS blew me away. i played that first NRPS album over and over and still do. the lead singer, Daves ???, wrote and sang about topics i felt like i understood. its a moving album.
talking about ahead of you time. .
i had a sucessful rock band called Critical Mass and were a loud stones type band. anyway, about 1970 pr 171 i had grown tied of teh same tunes and the 'country rock scene or 'cosmic aamerican' music scene was really getting my attention. you got understand this was like 1971 in SE Georgia and we had hair to our shoulders (some few of the local 'youth' many times chased us out town, etc.) as we too threatening to there women or something??? we had to get the chops to help us out of a fast food place at 3AM several times. anyway, me the lead singer, left the grojup (broke it up) and reformed a day later as Rockin' Horse ( later Sage Brush, Cosmic Cowboys and South Cactus). i went down to Portmans music and believe it or not they had a Sho-Bud Maverek, so i got it. all i knew was that i liked the sound and Poco, NRPS, Eagles, N. Young, Byrds, Comander Cody, GP, FB Bros, etc. all used a steel! so we were doing that west coast hippie music with long hair in SE Georgia while others were playing Stones and ohter rock sounds. we were out on the edge, i.e. not exactly rock adn not exactly country! think of this in 1971 in SE Georgia then, now its cool in all the states and social circles. we went from making money to being broke and playing dives! but, it was exciting. would do it agan. wish i could. there is no doubt in my mind, that music and youth is magic like John S. of the Lovin' Spoofull wrote in 'Do You Believe in Magic'. yes i do and it was magic.
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 11:13 am
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thanks for the correction. i actually thought it was CA but a friend convinced it was FL. Jim McQuinn has/had a house in FL somewhere, so . . . But i thought what yu are saying also.
was it an amp? it didn't really know, just assumed a guitar.
yes i will check out some those sites.
Great picker!
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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Steve Hitsman
From:
Waterloo, IL
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 12:29 pm
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Billy,
I see from your profile that you registered just yesterday. You'll probably be finding out who The Big E is shortly. |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 1:37 pm
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OK . . . so he played on 'Thats All It Took'?
great song.
I'm waiting . . .
later,
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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Steve Hitsman
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Waterloo, IL
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 2:34 pm
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actually i though it may be Emmons as in the Big E, but didn't think he played on any of gram parsons stuff.
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 3:27 pm
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| Billy, on the version of GP I have (the original fold-out album cover with the picture of Gram in front of the Truck) the Emmons credit appears. Most of the cuts were Al Perkins though. Welcome to the Forum! |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2005 4:01 pm
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yea, al perkins was GP steel player with the Fallen Angels and FBBros as he was the west coast steel king in those days, at least in rock edge side of things. didn't al play a C6 all the time or something like that?
so Mr. Emmons played only on That's All It Took? L. Green was on the Byrds Sweet Heart ablum. whaat other steel players were on teh Sweet Heart ablum?
i have not read those liners notes in awhile. in todays techy life, liner notes kinda get left behind. its shame actually as the art and liner notes were great to read while listening.
thanks,
billy
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William Johnson (Billy)
Grievous Angel Productions
Statesboro, GA. 30461 USA
www.grievousangelpro.com |
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