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Greg Vincent


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 2:50 pm    
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Hi folks,

I've noticed that I don't listen to music much anymore. In the car, music is too distracting, so it's just sports talk there. At home I find that when I have the time & inclination toward music I feel like I should be practicing my steel rather than listening to music. If I need to relax and turn my brain off, TV (of course) is the perfect thing. Listening to music seems to fire off too many neurons in my brain to be relaxing.

Is there something wrong with me? I really love music but rarely listen to it these days unless I'm playing it!

-GV

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Sonny Priddy

 

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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 3:00 pm    
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I'm with You And There's Not Much Good Music On Any More. I'd Reather Play my Steel. SONNY

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David L. Donald


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 3:10 pm    
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Attention deficit disorder
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 3:23 pm    
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I was like that for years Greg. Between the ages 13 to my 30's I would have the music going 24 hours a day if I could. Then for years after that I never listened to anything but still played. Now at 42 I'm listening again, but not to the same old thing, and not as much. I still enjoy music the best if I'm creating it live with other people.

So I guess you're not crazy-or we're both crazy!

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Greg Vincent


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 3:28 pm    
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Happy to be crazy like you, DZ! -GV
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Steinar Gregertsen


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 4:03 pm    
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Nothing wrong with you,- I know many musicians who 'suffer' from this. Me, I have a pile of 11 CD's by my stereo that I still haven't listened to.
Spending much time on playing and working on my own music, I need other stuff for 'recreation', like watching a good movie.

Steinar


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Robert Thomas

 

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Mehama, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 4:24 pm    
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Why is that?
Playing is fulfilling and makes life fun and worthwhile. Listening can be enjoyable but lacks invovlement that playing gives and requires.
I find that I seldom if ever listen to music anymore and as I look back I don't think I ever did listen much years ago. I had to work everyday and play at night. That left time for 5 kids, a wife and some sleep once in awhile.
You know what I am talking about.
Keep playing beautiful music on your PSG that your Creator inspired and gave you the talent to do!
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chas smith R.I.P.


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 4:43 pm    
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After listening to the radio, for about 48 years, I've noticed that it's the same thing, theme and variation, over and over and over again.

On the weekends, the local station in the valley, KCSN 88.5, plays "roots" and "Americana", which I never get tired of listening to and, by the same token, any program that plays music from the '20s, '30s and '40s gets my attention.

When I'm in the shop, I want music in the backround so it's back and forth between the classical stations and the jazz station, none of which are very adventurous. I've heard all the "classic rock" I need to hear in this lifetime.

So Greg, what I think I'm hearing from you is that you're bored with the "fast-food" that passes for pop music today. There's a whole host of other things in western music starting around the 12th century to the present (I favor music before 1750). There's also a lot of music from other cultures that's not 8-tone scales and 4/4 time.

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John McGann

 

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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 5:01 pm    
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There is so much incredible music to hear (that wasn't created in the past two months) that I could listen 16 hours a day until I'm dead, and not get to the bottom of it- and that's just classical and jazz...I haven't listened to the radio as a source for music since I was a kid.

Even in country music alone, by the time you've listened to George Jones in his prime, you've spent 16 hours, easy!

How about Louis Armstrong...Herbie Hancock...Tal Farlow...Johnny Smith...Miles Davis versions 1-10...JS Bach (that'll take up a few days)...Alban Berg...U. Srinivas...Julian Bream...The Shaggs...

If you are interested in good music, there is plenty out there. I'd get sick of hearing myself as my only musical input...

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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 5:14 pm    
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I'm the same way as Greg; but not sure of Greg's delima, but I can tell you mine and why I don't listen to music hardly ever.
Now when I hear music; I can't relax and enjoy it. The reason being is after all these years of studio work and thousands of gigs; I can't just relax to a song. When a song comes on; I immediatly start desiphering it...ha...meaning I start hearing the chord progression and naming chords in my head and then hear what the bass player is doing and then what the singer is singing and how they are singing it and then oh my gosh; when the lead sections come in and all the different instrumentation involved in the song and why> that's a whole nother story. So You can see now how that would drive someone crazy...and so I just say NO to listening to music...ha.
Ricky
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Graham


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Marmora, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 6:03 pm    
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I have to say I listen to an awful lot of good country music, 'cause if I didn't, you guys would never see any clips up on the Rebelâ„¢, Ricky and Jeff site.

I have well over 100 George Jones LP records alone, so it takes a lot of time going thru all this stuff. 'Course, I guess I could quit and find a better use for my time.

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Bryan Bradfield


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 6:24 pm    
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Ricky Davis is having the same problem that I have. When listening to the styles of music that I perform, I'm "working", analyzing, etc. So my solution recently has been to listen to music that I do not perform. Right now I'm listening to avante gard jazz, experimental jazz, and rockabilly.

Now, however, my band-mates tell me that I'm playing slightly differently. So maybe I am unable to turn off the performing part of the brain after all.
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John Walden


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Simi Valley, California, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 6:42 pm    
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I'm with you Greg, It's KNX news raido for me. My excuse is that after years of learning licks and styles from everyone else, I feel it important to develope my own style. I agree that there is alot of good music to listen to, but players like me, tend to listen and react differently to music. I would rather be playin' it. There is a level that I go to when performing, that can't be beat ! ( usually )
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Drew Howard


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Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 7:05 pm    
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Good thread!

For radio I listen to a local AM oldies station, real oldies not '60's rock, they play lots of standards and obscure tunes that my mother-in-law would've known. Lots of surprises.

To relax I listen to jazz, Cannonball Adderley is too heavy for me to analyze!

Ricky nailed it. Like lots of folks here I have to learn tunes all the time for repertoire or sessions, so after concentrating hard all day/night the last thing you want to do is here more music.

Drew

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Rick Schmidt


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Prescott AZ, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 7:06 pm    
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Greg...you mentioned TV in your post and I immediately went Ah Hah! As much as I totally can relate to turning off the old brain to watch the boob tube after a hard day, I have to tell you that everytime I leave the TV off for more than a couple days, my love of music comes back! For me there's nothing so numbing to the muses as channel surfing. I'm a firm believer that the brain can only stand so much News-Weather-Sports, South Park, Wheel of Fortune, and yes...even the Discovery Channel.
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Rich Weiss

 

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Woodland Hills, CA, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 10:05 pm    
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On the weekends, the local station in the valley, KCSN 88.5, plays "roots" and "Americana", which I never get tired of listening to and, by the same token, any program that plays music from the '20s, '30s and '40s gets my attention.


Same here Chas. And Greg, you could pick up this station from where you live, as well. By the way, they play (88.5) cuts from your groups CD pretty regularly, on Cowboy Nicks show.

And also KCRW, Morning Becomes Eclectic is on weekday mornings from 9-12, with a live performance probably 3 days of the week. Even though Chas doesn't care for this show, I love it and I can't get my recording work done until ths show is over at noon. I'm truly inspired by the radio I listen to, but it's always PRI, or NPR.


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Eric West


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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 10:08 pm    
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Lately I've been listening to an "oldies" station that plays 70s 80s country. Some of it was the BEST. Crystal Gayle's "Cry" "Seven Yr Ache", Emmy Lou, etc.

Some of it was pretty funky.

Things like "Rub it In". "Baby's Got her BLue Jeans on", "Lonely Women", and who can forget, "You Can't Take the Texas out of Me"/

What I get a kick out of that in cover bands I used to play that stuff like my life depended on it.

What's so funny is that it did..

Now I listen mostly to Light Oldie Rock (70s-80s), Jazz, and Bluegrass on KBOO on saturdays, sneaking into the Grateful Dead Live tapes show..

Top 40 Country, unless I here Lloyd, or a song my band is doing, I rarely listen to.

EJL

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Toby Rider

 

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Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 10:23 pm    
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I love my XM Radio.. I'm so glad I got it. Some of my favorite channels:

America - Classic Country
Hanks' Place - Classic Country & Gospel
Highway 16 - New Country Music
The Torch - Christian Rock Music
America Right - All my Favorite Talk Radio hosts
Fox News - Fox News Broadcasts
NASCAR Channel - So I can keep up with my favorite drivers
Family Talk - Christian Talk Radio

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Herman Visser

 

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Rohnert Park, California, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 10:41 pm    
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Its not that I dont listen to a whole lot of music any more, its that Im bored with alot of it. Same songs,same beat,same words by singers that all sounding the same.About the only radio I listen too is Sat7am to10an called American, (not top 40 stuff here).Lot of PPS music is great and dif.At work its the Top 100 of 1775 when I doing wood finishs, and glazing(got to keep my wits about when doing that).BUT still like going to live gigs alot(only the kind with Steel Guitar, good or bad)
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Herman Visser

 

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Rohnert Park, California, USA
Post  Posted 8 Dec 2004 10:52 pm    
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Toby: Is XM radio like SIRIUS radio.I have Sirius on my TV. Think about getting it for my truck
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Michael Johnstone


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Sylmar,Ca. USA
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2004 12:33 am    
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I never listen to the types of music that I'm actually any good at playing myself because like Ricky Davis,I know where all the skeletons are buried in it. I used to listen to a lot of talk radio while driving but nowadays most of it just makes me angry at the world and all the idiots in it. TV is atrocious by and large and not fit for a retarded monkey to see so I'm watching less and less of that,too.I've never seen so much drivel as those "reality" shows but I've actually met people who think they're "real". I never go to the movies or go out to see other bands cause it's too much trouble to get that together.Anyhow there are no good new bands - you can't be new AND good cause it takes so long to GET good,that I'd have heard of them by the time they got "good" and they wouldn't be "new" any more and I've already heard all the old good ones. Hell,I never heard of most of the new young actors,singers and bands I see plastered all over the media - and when I do see what they're up to, 99% of them should be flogged in public for it - along with their fans and management. So I tend as I get older to look further and further back in time for music that sounds magical to me - like it used to sound when I was young. Music that's been around for a century or two has got to have more gravity than Shania Twain and Eminem. I've taken up mandolin and am quite serious about it.The sparse voicings necessary on mandolin have caused me to take a look at a similar approach on non-pedal steel. It's also opened me up to bluegrass and Celtic music which I'd only dabbled with before and adds a new dimension to my overall musical attitude - not to mention more gigs and a new crowd of pickers. So my advice is take a fresh look at some very old music - or read a book.
-MJ-
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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2004 12:43 am    
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Mike, good move with the mandolin.
It does give a concice look at voicings for sure.

I have the same thing as Ricky, and Mike, over familiarity with the genres,
but to another extent, that I think Mike can relate to.
I can't listen without disecting the music AND THE MIX.

My brain is always on after mixing for 40 years.
How did they mic that,
what eq on this acoustic guitar,
which amp is that,
how much compression attack delay
Is that eq before comporasssion or after
and on and on.
How can I duplicate that sound....

I tend to listen to music in the car, where I have somethinbg to occupy my engineers mind... driving,
so I can enjoy the music more. Less time for analysis.

I always appreciate an album so strong musically, that it pulls me away from thinking about the sound.

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Dave Zirbel


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Sebastopol, CA USA
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2004 6:43 am    
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Good advice Micheal. I cancelled cable TV over ten years ago and don't plan on getting it any time soon. If I could just spend less time on the computer and more time practicing or fixing up the shack...............

DZ
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Ray Minich

 

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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2004 7:34 am    
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Herman; XM Radio and Sirius are competing satellite systems. XM has more subscribers that Sirius at the moment, but Sirius is gonna have Howard. (Tuesday's/wrong!) Wednesday's Wall Street Journal all but gave Sirius an obituary.

Thread title prompted thoughts of new song title... "I never go around radios".

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Pat Dawson


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Chesapeake Beach, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 9 Dec 2004 7:36 am    
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I believe that this phenomenom occurs with age. It seems that listening and collecting music is much more central in a young persons life. Killer car stereo's, huge CD collections, concert going, etc. Then all the other stuff that comes with maturity creeps into our lives. It must be why the industry is driven by youth. I know it was in the Baby Boom era. Now retirement communities, Florida, and health care are the hot ticket.

I think music became "ours" when we were young, but now "our" music is no longer played because new music is being produced to become "their" music.

I'm 49 and still play in a band and I still listen. I'm not rich, famous, or even very good. It was "cool" when I was 20, but now it seems it doesn't matter or is even a little strange to "be still doing that stuff at your age". That's OK. My Uncle Gene is 80 and still lugging his keyboard around.

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