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Topic: Playing one chord "over" another |
Tony Palmer
From: St Augustine,FL
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 2:12 pm
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I see a lot of reference to chords like D/G (D over G) or C/G and I'm not exactly sure what that means, nor how to play it.
From what I understood, it's playing one part of a chord over another part of another chord, but when I try it , it comes out like a sus4 chord.
Can something elaborate on this...particularly as it relates to steel? |
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David L. Donald
From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 2:24 pm
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Well many times this would be
a D chord over a G root
D/G
For a decending root it could be
D D/C D/B G A |
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 2:40 pm
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In D/G the G usually means G note in the bass, not a G chord. As a steel player you don't have to play the bass note because the bass player should be playing it.
Also in a Nashville number chart D/G might mean play half a bar (2 beats) of D chord, then half a bar of G chord. In this kind of chart, a D chord with G bass would not use the diagonal slash / . Instead you would write the D directly above the G, with a horizontal line separating them.
Something like this:
D
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G
which is hard to do right on the computer. |
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Rick Schmidt
From: Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2004 3:43 pm
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Funny you mention that Earnest.
Yesterday I did a recording session where the guy was writing out "compound chords" (which is what I call em) using Nashville numbers. For instance, instead of Ab/Bb, he used 4/5 etc. It looked pretty confusing when he'd have 2 or 3 chords per measure. It started to look pretty algebraic. Wish he woulda added more random numbers to my check. Now that would've impressed me! |
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Jeff Lampert
From: queens, new york city
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Posted 7 Dec 2004 1:34 pm
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An additional point. More often than not, the bass note specified after the "/" will be a note of the chord, and then that instance of the chord is considered an "inversion" of the normal chord.
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[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 07 December 2004 at 01:37 PM.] |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 12:04 pm
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An easy way to use one chord over another is for instance in the key of G. When you get ready to go the the C (or 4) chord use a Dm or 5m instead of the G7. It's especially nice on ballads. Also in the same vein, you can get some nice things on up tempo solos by soloing in the 5 minor scale of whatever chord you're in while the band is playing the root....Have a good 'un..JH
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 1:17 pm
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Jerry...would that be like the 2minor in a 2/5/1 progression. I've been practicing 2 5 1's lately in both single notes and chords. I was thinking of taking an old country song "I think I'll go somewhere and cry myself to sleep" and put in some tasty 2/5/1's and other chord substitutions. I may get shot if I play it at a county jam though. |
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Bill C. Buntin
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 7:23 pm
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Also in example are poly-chords. Where you play the notes of one triad against another chord. For example if the band is in the 1 chord; during a solo or a ride or while you are playing fills you could play the 1st, 3rd and 5th notes of the 4 chord against that 1 chord and it works out well. That is one of MANY examples of using poly-chords during solos or fill work. |
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basilh
From: United Kingdom
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 8:12 pm
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I think that for instance.. in the key of C...a F/G might be a way of getting a rather nice sounding G11..maybe !
Baz
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Tom Keller
From: Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2004 10:14 pm
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I have always heard these symbols referred to as slash chords. exp.. F#/G simply means F# is the featured bass note of the chord. |
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David L. Donald
From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 10 Dec 2004 1:37 am
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Tom you bring up a good point.
SOME people write the root 1st and then the chord
G/A G root under A major chord
But I think MORE people use it after,
as in A/G or A major chord with G root.
As a bass player I see the chord / root version much more often.
I go with the later, you are stating the chord, and then stating an different root for it.
But it is good to ask if it is a 1st time chart.
Often the logic of the changes should tell you which way to read it.
?There are also hybrid chords where a chord is stacked over another chord literally,
but this is more a modern jazz convention.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 10 December 2004 at 01:39 AM.] |
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