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James Cann
From: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 25 Oct 2004 9:25 pm
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Here's something I just noticed on the Lloyd Green Tribute website:
"Lloyd Lamar Green was born on October 4, 1937, in Mobile Alabama . . ."
So, what does the "D" stand for (although I have a feeling the answer lies in the first name)?
James
Sho-Bud YKW (You Know What) |
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Fred Jack
From: Bastrop, Texas 78602
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Posted 25 Oct 2004 9:40 pm
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James, His wife "Dot".Regards, Fred |
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James Cann
From: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 2:07 pm
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Good for him! Score one for Romanticism! |
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Tim Harr
From: Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 2:20 pm
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James.. do you know a William Cann who lived in Bisby, AZ? He is in the US Army Band. He plays Trumpet and plays a mean blues harp...
Just curious...
Tim |
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Leslie Elliott
From: Madison, Tennessee USA
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 3:48 pm
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The 'D' in LDG is for David Jackson, Shot's son who ran the Sho-Bud factory and made the first LDG for Lloyd.
Musically yours,
Leslie Elliott |
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Dag Wolf
From: Bergen, Norway
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 3:54 pm
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Well actually `the "D" stands for both Dot and David. Lloyd suggested it to David when they were trying to find a model name of the SD ShoBud.
Dag |
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James Cann
From: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 7:08 pm
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Tim,
I don't think so, since I'm from Massachusetts and as far as I know, the first of my tribe to venture west of the Mississippi.
Thanks for asking.
James |
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 26 Oct 2004 9:23 pm
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Here is the full explanation from Lloyd Green.
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I normally try to avoid these discussions but since this has to do with a small bit of the historicity of the instrument, let me present the facts.
The LDG type guitar -D10 frame with pad - was my idea and inspiration. No guitar of this type existed before I went to Shot Jackson and David (his son) with the idea. They both said I was crazy, that it would ruin a perfectly good Sho-Bud double neck to do what I was suggesting. Shot said, "I'll build you anything you want; single, double or triple neck".
When I adamantly stood by my idea David reluctantly removed all of the C6th pedals and undercarriage from my double neck Baldwin Sho- Bud and put a rudimentary pad on the exposed wooden frame, carefully storing all the parts in a plastic bag, he and Shot being quite certain I would soon want them replaced. The removed parts weighed 18 pounds thereby validating my main reason for the initial idea, to lessen the weight. We had no cartage service in those days and I was carrying my steel and Fender amp into and out of the studios 3 to 4 times daily, sometimes 7 days a week, which we often recorded.
Immediately, steel players heard about this and started dropping by my recording sessions to see this weird new steel, which was a single neck......but not really.
Soon David and Shot were getting inquiries about building other players a steel like mine. Six months later they decided my crazy idea wasn't too bad a marketing one after all and decided to build a model with my name on it along with the Sho-Bud logo and a modest royalty for each one sold.
One day David and I sat down to discuss the name signature and decided one with initials was the simplest and least distracting from the Sho-Bud name and was the more practical way to do this.
I said, "Well, my initials are LLG so that's probably what should be on the model". After drawing the initials - David, who was a pretty good graphic artist - said it didn't look quite right esthetically (my word, not his). Now, I'm a pretty quick study and realized he wanted some connection to this thing since his crew was going to build it, so I immediately said," David, try a "D" for the middle letter and if it looks good to you, you can tell everybody the "D" stands for David and I'll say it means Dot (which it really did)".
He then drew LDG, looked at it for a few seconds, then looked at me and said, "I like this because a more rounded middle letter balances the look better".
With that, the LDG model was born and everybody lived happily ever after except no one realized how popular the model would become. The idea was never patented so ultimately, virtually every steel guitar manufacturer offered a padded model on double frame as an option without the necessity of paying a royalty.
For me, this is absolutely ok, since my idea merely involved a minor evolution of the steel guitar, and everyone who wants one of these today can get it without problems.
Lloyd Green
Thanks Lloyd for sending that to me and explaining the history of one of the Greatest Pedal Steel guitars ever made.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 26 October 2004 at 10:23 PM.] |
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Joey Ace
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 27 Oct 2004 2:46 am
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Great bit of history.
Thanks guys!
Now about the S in ,,,.,
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 27 Oct 2004 4:17 am
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Everytime I sit down to my 10 strings I realize I'm standing on the shoulders of giants.
Emmons SD-10, Dekley S-10, NV400, misc. toys |
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 27 Oct 2004 11:38 am
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So when was the term "loafer" coined?
Brad Sarno
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