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Terry Sneed

 

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Arkansas,
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 11:54 am    
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The Emmons I had was a push-pull system.
are most of the newer guitars, not just Emmons, but Zum, Franklin, Carter etc an all pull system? I got a lot to learn guys, and a lot of questions, so be patient with me.

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Terry Wayne
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 12:11 pm    
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Hi Terry - yes just about every manufacturer these days, including Emmons makes All-pull guitars.
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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 12:47 pm    
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I know of only one builder today that still uses a P/P. All the rest have long since gone to an all-pull. Modern copedents just aren't efficient with a P/P. This is because in essence they are a single raise/single lower system. Having to reach under any PSG to tune a string is IMO, archaic.

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David Doggett


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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 12:58 pm    
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I have both kinds. The all-pulls are cheaper to make, easier to tune, and much easier to make your own setup changes on. a simple standard setup can work very well on a push-pull. But if you want to experiment with your own changes like many steelers do, an all-pull is much more convenient.
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Terry Sneed

 

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Arkansas,
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 2:44 pm    
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Thanks for the info ya'll, looks like the all pull is the way to go. I'm way behind everbody else. my Emmons SD-10 was a 1978 model, and i hadn't kept up with all the improvements on the steel guitar. but, I plan on learning a lot from you guys and gals.
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Frank Estes


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Huntsville, AL
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 3:34 pm    
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In a nutshell, you have Emmons push-pulls and all the rest are wanna-bes, tone-wise!

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Frank Estes - 1978 Emmons D-10 8+7 #2441D


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John Fabian


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Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 3:55 pm    
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Hmmm??

That's interesting Frank. I shared the stage with you and Big John in Nashville and you weren't saying those things then???



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John Bechtel


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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 7:52 pm    
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Tell him John. “John”

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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2004 11:17 pm    
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Woof!

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Mike Weirauch


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Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2004 12:02 pm    
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In a nutshell, you have Emmons push-pulls and all the rest are wanna-bes, tone-wise

I have a JCH that can turn any push/pull (and I have a killer push/pull) into a JCH wanna be, tone wise. Look at what it did to Buddy Emmons! Oh, it also plays about 10 times smoother than any push/pull I've ever sat down to. It just happens to be the guitar that Jeff Peterson is playing in the new Clint Black video.
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2004 12:10 pm    
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Moved to 'pedal steel' section of the Forum.
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