sour notes

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

i am new to this so bear with me . i have been learning amazing grace for about 2 weeks and thought i would try something new just to break the routine. i looked on the web and found the tab for the intro to buck owens " togather again" the first few notes sound right but then it starts sounding awful . it goes from the 9 fret to the 4th then to the 7 th and so on.... i have ran into this on a couple of other songs i tryed . it just seems that the notes bon't belong there ..i am well aware that i am new and lack the experance to question the tabs but still, the notes seem out of place

Jerry Roller · From: Van Buren, Arkansas USA

Calvin, that would be right for key of Db
playing strings 3 and 5 thru that whole sequence. Make sure pedals A and B are being
engaged at the proper times working off of
fret 9,7,9,4,7,4 and 2.

Calvin Walley · From: colorado city colorado, USA

thanks , do you think that its just my timing of the notes because i am just slowly walking thru them trying to find them at this point. all of you good folks here are almost as good as having a teacher..thanks for putting up with us beginers

Rainer Hackstaette · From: Bohmte, Germany

Calvin,

I guess you are talking about the TAB on this page: http://users.interlinks.net/rebel/steel/1964.html

There is an audio bite on that page, also. Listen to it again and again to get the timing. Most TABs give you the notes to play but not the exact timing.

The solo of Together Again has the melody line on top for the first part (3rd string, frets 9 to 2), then the melody changes to the bottom (5th string, frets 2 and 1) with a single harmony note on top, and then changes back to the top for the rest of the solo (3rd string, frets 7 to 9). If the solo is played too slow or out of timing, the part where the melody is on string 5 can sound really "off". There is just ONE harmony note in this part (A#/Bb on string 3) that has to stay the same when you're on fret 2 no pedals and fret 1 B-pedal: it just rings through as if you hadn't changed frets at all. This is what gives the solo that haunting sound.

Stay with it, you'll get it eventually. It is one of the most beautiful solos of all time IMHO.

Rainer

edited for spelling

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[This message was edited by Rainer Hackstaette on 18 September 2003 at 05:07 AM.]

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

The nemesis of "tab" has always caused more or less what you have experienced. Unlike musical notes on a Treble and Bass staff, most tabs give little indication to the prime concern of music and that is correct timing or note length. This is soooo crucial when trying to learn the incredible break that Tom Brumley achieved on "Together Again".

In time you will get through this setback when trying to learn to read tab*. I suspect most of us at one time or another has gone through this when attempting to learn a song from Tab.

The BEST way to learn ANY song is to have the melody line firmly planted in your mind first. As Little Roy Wiggins told me many years ago, "I try to see if I can hum or whistle it before trying to play it on the steel".

Very wise words from one of Steel Guitar World's true hall of famers.

Good luck and may Jesus lead you through this learning curve; so you can begin to enjoy the world's most beautiful instrument,

carl

* Some tabs have errors in them. I have found this quite common. Since I have not seen the tab you are using, this is entirely possible in the tab you are trying to learn.

Carl West · From: La Habra, CA, USA (deceased)

Could'nt agree more Carl

Carl West

RON PRESTON · From: Dodson, Louisiana, USA

Calvin,
Don't be discouraged, hang in there. The very FIRST # I TACKLED, and, belive me, it was a nightmare, was, of all songs to sit behind a steel to learn, was DANNY BOY, right out of Winnie Winston's book. Heck, I didn't even know yet how to TUNE it properly as of yet. I was hired by a group out of Indiana called the "Waggnors", Charlie & Roxann Waggnor. (They play and reside at the "Little Nashville" Opry in IN) They hired me KNOWING I was a "Newbbie", but, they took a chance, and it paied off...About 3 years later. But, Those first 3 years was just learning to TUNE, find the "Positions", and what the pedals and knees do, and to combo these together. THEN, I had to learn Volume pedal movements, and, how to "Block", either with the palm, or fingers. LOTS of things to concider when you sit behind a steel. Back then, (1974) there was no Fourm, or, not too many books on steel, and you could forget about VCR's, they wern't even around yet, so, Buddy, your in the BEST PLACE in the world to get ALL the advice and help with this %$$##@CRAZY instrument.
Good Luck, And, God bless you in your "Quest".

Bill Crook · From: Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance

Calvin...........

Just a thought here.
If you changed the key signature to "A", the whole song will fall into place correctly.(Read this as not haveing to do those ill-fittin runs way up and down the lenght of the axe) Even doing the turnaround at the fifth fret(aka "A")is a super choice. With a bit of useing the volumne pedal as a "Exspression" pedal, this song is a showcase for the Pedal Steel. One of my favorites..

Bill

JamesMCross · From: Houston, Texas, USA

I worked and worked on the Together Again solo, for several years until I thought I had it down pretty good - in C#. But, none of the gigs I worked ever gave me a chance to play it for real.

Then one night we had a fill-in on rythym guitar and he called the song. Finally, after so much diligent practice I would get a chance to really shine...

But he called the song in Bb.. I ran out of neck at the end of the solo where the B pedal comes in on the third string, and wound up scratching around for notes that weren't there and won't ever be.

It was fun, though - I got to practice my looking around at my amp in complete shock technique for trying to cover mistakes too..

All in all, a very unique learning oppportunity!

[This message was edited by JamesMCross on 18 September 2003 at 05:43 PM.]

John Bresler R.I.P. · From: Thornton, Colorado

Calvin:

Go to Tom Bradshaws web page and get Herby Wallaces "10 songs for the E9th Tuning". It contains complete tab and a cassette for the whole song and is very nicely done. The course includes Together Again, Danny Boy, Funny How Time slips away, Wildwood Flower, Blue Jade, Born to Lose, and some other songs. The course is for the beginner and Herby does a good job at the tab. There is also a rhythm track to practice against. You won't be sorry.

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