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Nick Reed


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Russellville, KY USA
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 11:39 am    
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I'm back from St. Louis and got to hear alot of different guitars. As far as I'm concerned, the old Emmons P/P's still have the best tone. Friday night I went to a display room and heard Jaydee Maness play his '68 Emmons P\P right next to 2 other brand new (un-mentioned brand) guitars. Let me tell you it was NO CONTEST! The P\P's had that tone where the others didn't. The new un-mentioned guitars sound good in their own way, but not like the Push Pulls. Sunday, I set on the front row while Randy Beavers played his '67 Push-Pull and was totally knocked out by his incredable tone as well.
Guess I'm just old fashioned but I'm glad I still have my old Emmons P/P's.

NR

[This message was edited by Nick Reed on 02 September 2003 at 04:28 PM.]

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Eric West


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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 12:03 pm    
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What's a ..

Oh, nevermind..



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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 12:53 pm    
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Nick, that's a very interesting observation. Randy played a Zum for years and now plays a Push-Pull. Thats gotta tell you something.
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Dennis Detweiler


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Solon, Iowa, US
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 1:29 pm    
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Why not continue to build them if the demand is so huge?
Dennis
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Mike Kowalik

 

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San Antonio,Texas
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 1:41 pm    
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I think it's more the player than the guitar....
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 8:14 pm    
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I agree with Nick. The 4 or so push/pulls this past weekend really stood out as being that benchmark sound. They have a long and powerful cry in their overtones with a tight punchy bass. Real expressive and responsive to the picking.

Brad Sarno
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Steven Welborn

 

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Ojai,CA USA
Post  Posted 1 Sep 2003 9:25 pm    
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Bullseye Brad.
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Paul Warnik

 

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Illinois,USA
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2003 2:00 pm    
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Vintage Emmons P/P Jay Dee's mint condition '68
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Robert L. Clark

 

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Blountstown, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2003 4:37 pm    
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I have a 1979 push/pull and I'll agree it has the warmth and sustain that noghing else has, but my Zum has a great sound and is so so so much easier to play. It's really in what you like. Buddy and John can get a great tone out of a tin pan with strings
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Jeff Lampert

 

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queens, new york city
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2003 5:02 pm    
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Randy played a Zum for years and now plays a Push-Pull. Thats gotta tell you something.


If you're gonna go down that road, you'll have a long debate. There is a VERY, very long list of major players that have given up their vintage push-pulls (and Sho-Buds) to play a Zum or some other modern guitar.
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Al Marcus


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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2003 5:53 pm    
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I had 3 Emmons PP in the 60's and 70's. One was absolutely scary through my Fender Twin Reverb.

But the other two sounded good like some other normal guitars, but not great.

So,in my opinion they don't all have the same great sound......al

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Bill Simmons

 

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Keller, Texas/Birmingham, AL, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 2 Sep 2003 8:55 pm    
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Keeping my '79 Zum, birdeye maple with aluminum necks (great guitar) but just bought a '79 Emmons black mica from Jerry Roller...all I know when I play other brands with these old hands, the p/p as its unique sound!!
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Dan Hatfield

 

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Columbia, Mo USA
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 6:31 am    
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Kevin, why don't you ask Hal Rugg and Doug Jernigan what they think of Zum?
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Gary Walker

 

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Morro Bay, CA
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 9:38 am    
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I didn't get to hear all of the show due to site congestion, but I did get to hear Randy Beavers and his tone was pure heaven on earth. I'll have to admit, it speaks mountains of proof. It also should raise the worth of my black D-10 that Tommy had and the world has a video of it.
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 10:48 am    
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Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Zums were a bad sounding guitar. In fact a lacquer bodied Zum is one of my dream guitars as I think their tone is great. What I meant to say is that the Emmons push-pull continues to turn heads. To me, Zum guitars are some of the finest built and sounding guitars out there. What is good for one person is not necessarily good for another.

[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 03 September 2003 at 11:50 AM.]

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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 11:15 am    
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I was just wondering if there is a GRAND PIANO Forum somewhere where the members spend years talking about how the Steinway sounds better than the Yamaha..or whatever..

or..
are we the only ones...?

tp

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John Steele

 

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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 11:25 am    
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Tony, actually the question is:
What's better, a New York Steinway or a German Steinway?

-John
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Stephen Gregory

 

Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 11:31 am    
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I just wanna know, "what's a henway"?
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 12:30 pm    
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Oh, about 3 or 4 lbs.
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Rick McDuffie

 

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Benson, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 3 Sep 2003 1:31 pm    
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What was double-headed llama animal on Dr. Dolittle? A pushme-pullyou?

[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 03 September 2003 at 02:34 PM.]

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