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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 May 2003 5:55 pm
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I have always recorded direct into the board unless the Producer requested me to bring an amp.I am currentl playing a Carter D-10 with George L pickups.Any thoughts on Direct Vs.Amp,Stu |
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 12 May 2003 6:52 pm
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I like to record direct because it is so simple as I can carry the steel with the GX-700 strapped on it in one hand and the pacaseat in the other hand until yesterday when the plastic handle of the pacaseat split apart and the metal strip inside it sliced my finger wide open releasing buckets of blood everywhere so I took the handle off and now it takes two hands to carry it. Now where can I buy a handle? |
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Mark van Allen
From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 12 May 2003 6:53 pm
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Hi, Stu, I've rarely liked the sound of pickups direct into a board channel, except for a "thin effect" kind of tone. I usually use some kind of preamp, like a Peavey Profex/ Transtubefex or one of the many available these days. Every time I cut tracks direct with no preamp, I've never liked the way the engineer eq'ed the tone in the mix. Have you gotten good tone just straight into the board? I've heard some good sounds going through outboard mic pres (Avalon, Manley, Great River, etc.) but not so much straight in. I've just written some articles on this that will hopefully show up in Steel Guitar .US mag.
And Ernest- most music stores carry Fender or Peavey replacement handles that may fit your seat. Might have to move one of the attachment holes...
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Bruce Bouton
From: Nash. Tn USA
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Posted 12 May 2003 7:05 pm
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The Roland processers are very good.I use an old GP100 when I need to go direct. I run it into a more me box that has stereo 1/4'' inputs and xlr outputs at either mic level or +4. It also has an xlr input for the headphone feed and volumn and pan controls for the pre amp, allowing you to mix yourself louder in the phones. Matthew Beckett just showed me a new more-me box built by Jim Stover in Phoenix . It looked like it was well built. His number is 602 376 0192. IMHO this is one of the best investments for direct recording. You hear exactly what you are sending the engineer.BTW I'm sure the new Roland modeling processers sound great. Also some guys swear by the POD pro.
BB
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 May 2003 7:31 pm
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Mark,We went into a Manley Pre,and then into the Yamaha 02 Mixer,The sound is just wonderful.The main reason that I dont bring an amp is out of Lazyness,one less piece of gear to haul around.Ernest sorry to hear about your finger,try wearing a pair of gloves when moving equiptment in the future. |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 May 2003 7:34 pm
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Oh!one more thing,I setup in the control room,and listen thru the monitors. |
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 12 May 2003 8:35 pm
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setup in the control room,and listen thru the monitors. |
so you know what you really sound like (impossible to know using headphones only) |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 May 2003 11:32 pm
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Although my recording is "bush league" I do it at some pretty nice studios lately. Certainly not Nvl, but the more current digital setups. The last/best one was based on a Mac.
I've been using in the last two, a Line 6 Pod, set for pre 64 tweed twin, with spring reverb. It's got me fooled. Then they can do whatever they want with the signal.
I'm getting to like it.
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Joey Ace
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 May 2003 4:06 am
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Great topic and responses!
So good that I'm moving it to ELECTRONICS.
Actually it belongs there.
The description of ELECTRONICS
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"Steel guitar amplifiers, effects, recording, etc. |
can be seen on the main page of the SGF. |
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