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Topic: Every Time I am Kissing You |
C Dixon
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 8:13 am |
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Does anyone know who played steel on this Faron Young classic? It sounds like Buddy Emmons. I am not sure.
Thanks,
carl[This message was edited by C Dixon on 21 April 2003 at 09:27 AM.] |
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Buddy Emmons
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 9:50 am
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| That would be me on a Bigsby, Carl. It has the flavor of the G# string on E9, but I recorded it on the C6 tuning a year or so before we started using the G# in Nashville. |
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 10:00 am
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Don't that beat all! 
Maybe someday, afore one of us goes on to that wonderful place beyond, you will tell me how in this world you were able to get those beautiful classic E9th sounds (even with no high G#) on a C6 tuning.
Come to think about it, it does not surprise me.
Is there no end? 
luv ya friend,
carl
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Paul Graupp
From:
Macon Ga USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 3:51 pm
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Buddy: There was a story once that Ralph Mooney put a G# string on his E9th to get those C6th runs you are talking about here. That story even went so far as to say that you asked Ralph about that new string and he said he got the idea from you. Could you verify this story or correct it if I am wrong ???
I've always wondered which came first and maybe now I'll know for sure.
Carl: I'm thinking the same thoughts you are and was way back then as well. That was one of the reasons I went to a B tuning because raising the third in the Key of B puts you into the key of E. To further the search for what Buddy was doing, I mistakenly added two high strings to my first 12 string B6th tuning. Those notes were a G# and an A. Since those are a 6th and a b7th in the key of B, I suppose my tuning was actually a B13th. 6 plus 7 = 13...
And also noteworthy in this conversation, I want to point out that in deference to you, I have not called this a Cb6th tuning. Thought I must confess I had a lot of laughs when we were doing that way back when, here on the Forum.
Regards, Paul[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 22 April 2003 at 07:02 AM.] |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 4:04 pm
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Gotcha dear friend Paul,
carl |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 6:53 pm
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| Bobby Garrett and I literally destroyed our E9 necks trying to copy this tune and then we find out Buddy did this on C6. Garrett made a classic statement "I shoulda known". That is why Buddy always was, still is, and always will be the greatest steel guitar player in the world. See you down the road, Jody. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2003 7:41 pm
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| Help! I cannot find this tune on Kazaa or WinMX. |
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 6:16 am
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Paul,
The story you heard is true and happened at George's Roundup club after Moon had finished his last set with Wynn Stewart. I quit telling it because on one occasion when talking about it to Ralph, he didn't remember it happening. The times could be off a year but it seems like Every Time I'm Kissing You was cut in 1956 and the conversation with Ralph was around 1959, when I was living in California the first time. It was a total surprise to hear Ralph say what he did because Faron's record was history and I had long since forgotten about the intro.
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 6:45 am
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Buddy, I just dug out the Faron Young cd box set and listened to the song. To hear you say you did it on C6 totally freaks me out ( in a positive way, ah-ah ) Do you remember how the pedals were set up on the Bigbsy for C6, and were there slants involved??
The discography on that box set lists, that it was recorded on 24th April -58. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 6:49 am
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Ernest,
You can find it here:
http://recordlady.webgcs.com/main2.htm
When you get there look for, "Site Index". then look for "Real Country Page 23". The title song will be in alphabetical order. You can either listen to; it OR you can download it by clicking on the guitar icon.
Carl
[This message was edited by C Dixon on 22 April 2003 at 08:00 AM.] |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 6:58 am
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I have to agree with Jussi. It freaks me out too. The only thing I can figure out is he is using strings 2 and 3 a lot with pedals 6 and 7 (rolling on and off of pedal 7). That is the ONLY place I know of on C6 where one can even come close to emulating E9th. But even here, those two strings are not in tune with the bar straight, if one tunes (JI).
But of course Buddy is not like any one else. He simply HAS it wherever he wants it. He truly epitomizes the ole saying,
"He never paints himself into a corner".
God bless this dear man, and all of you,
carl
Note: The question "what is country music?" had often been asked on this forum. Well Faron's classis IS country music. So lest any one wonder what most of us mean when we say "country" THAT bubba, is country.
"And don you fergit it neether!" |
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 7:07 am
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Jussi,
Thanks for the time reference. That might set the time I was in California a little later. The pedal I used was the equivalent of the 6th C6 pedal, which raises the top E and lowers the middle E a half tone. The strings used with the pedal were E, C, and A, and E, C, and G without the pedal. The rest is in combining the two with some careful blocking. I don't remember how careful I was back then but the idea was to blend the two triads so they appear to be pulling from the same pedal.
[This message was edited by Buddy Emmons on 22 April 2003 at 08:10 AM.] |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 7:32 am
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Buddy you sho makes neophites think hard.
Keep up the great work!
PS that Record lady's site is an increadable resourse. Thankd for the tip on it.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 22 April 2003 at 08:34 AM.] |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 9:28 am
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Buddy,
You said,
"The strings used with the pedal were E, C, and A, and E, C, and G without the pedal
Could you possibly have meant F, C and A; instead of E, C and A? Or am I as usual, "out to lunch"
carl |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 9:37 am
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| Thank You Buddy for clearing that up, I guess I'd better get back to the drawing board and practice some careful blocking!! |
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Buddy Emmons
From:
Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 10:41 am
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| I should have taken better care in explaining the strings verses the notes. The strings used were E, C, and A, but the notes were F, C, and A with the pedal down. |
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Gerald Menke
From:
Stormville NY, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 12:27 pm
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Dear Carl,
Thanks so much for the link to that Record Lady site, man do I have some catching up to do history-wise!! That site is like a country music survey course, thanks!!!
Gerald |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2003 7:56 pm
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Unfortunately the Record Lady file are in Real Audio format, which I do not use.
Is this tune available in some other format? |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 23 Apr 2003 1:18 am
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Hi Earnest. I gave the Record Lady link to my singer and he will pick a few tunes, then I will record them to DAT and finally into mp3's
for a few select tunes.
But if you have some classics you want, he might want the same, so I can give your requests to him and maybe get you some of the files eventually.
The Realplayer for PC is about $30 so you could just install it from the net too, of course.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 23 April 2003 at 02:19 AM.] |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2003 11:27 am
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Thank you David, but please don't go to all that trouble; it's not worth it.
I was just hoping for a link to something already on the Internet somewhere.
I won't bore you with why I will not again install any Real Audio software on my PC. |
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Paul Graupp
From:
Macon Ga USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2003 1:15 pm
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Carl: This will be something like the Rest Of The Story but I wanted you to know. When I was in Germany going through all of this, Jimmy Day came over on tour with Ferlin Husky. Somewhere else on the Forum I wrote about a tuning he gave me.
It involved the Bob White pedal M7/M9 usually P-7 on a C6th set-up. He had changed the M7 to a b7 and I put it on my Marlen T-10. When I got my D-12 Carter I put the change onto 2 knee levers so that I could seperate their activations. That gave me the orginal E9th changes before the high G# was added.
Where Buddy was on A C E changed to A C F with the P-6 pedal; I was at G# B D# changed to G# B E with P-6. Jimmy's change made that A C# E and my knee levers seperated the G# to A change and the B to C# change.
In addition, releasing the P-6 floor lever was the same as the knee lever that drops the E to a D# on now standard E9th copedents. I had everything there I needed except the skill of execution that our esteemed friend and fellow player, Buddy possesses. And there in lies the difference.
Regards, Paul |
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