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Topic: Okay - let`s talk about Lloyd. |
Dag Wolf
From:
Bergen, Norway
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 3:40 am |
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Let me say I was complete overwelmed by Lloyd`s playing at ISGC. This guy does not have limitations in his playing.
Why is it that Lloyd stand out the way he does even when you compare him to the other top players?
First of all the top players of course has a talent.
In my opinion:
1. Lloyd has used the same copedant since the 60`s.
2. He has since about `73 used and still is only one single neck tuning.
These two points leave him more focused on the MUSIC and the executing of it.
I must state that I`m a big fan of just about every player that attended the ISGC and also a few others that didn`t attend.
I loved to hear Buddy again. He is an icon for all of us.
Tom, John, Tommy, Herby, Doug, Hal, Jeff and some others were great.
To me this was Lloyds convention.
I like forum members to chime in.
Dag
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autry andress
From:
Plano, Tx.
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 3:57 am
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What was he playing, the Sho-Bud LDG or the
JCH? |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 4:05 am
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the Sho-Bud..I mean "THE" Sho-Bud..
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John P. Phillips
From:
Folkston, Ga. U.S.A., R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 4:30 am
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You opened a real can 'o worms here. We could talk about Lloyd Green FOREVER !!!!
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"Let's go STEEL something"
If it feels good, do it. If it feels COUNTRY, do it twice
jpp
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erik
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 4:37 am
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His steel is like E.F. Hutton.  |
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 8:13 am
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Lloyd's guitar sounded so good that I toyed with the idea of getting another Sho-Bud. What a sound he gets. It was a highlight of the weekend when he played.
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1985 Emmons push-pull, Session 500, Nashville400, 65 re-issue Fender Twin, Fender Tele
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Wayne Morgan
From:
Rutledge, TN, USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 1:04 pm
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The sho-bud is a great sound when Lloyd plays it and many others also,,but give me Lloyds Hands and his brain, and then the steel can be a Silvertone from Sears.
Wayne,,,, |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 1:28 pm
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| His steel is like E.F. Hutton |
E.F. Hutton is bankrupt, disgraced, guilty of several thousand counts of mail and wire fraud, and as dead and forgotten as a Ray Price shuffle. |
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 1:53 pm
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| "forgotten as a Ray Price shuffle" |
No one forgot those shuffles at the ISGC.
Back to Lloyd...
The Sho-Bud has a 24 1/2 inch scale, if I remember correctly. That's a 1/2 longer than most Buds.
He says it was on over 6000 recordings! |
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 2:18 pm
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I was especially pleased that Lloyd kept it country! That's the stuff I relate to best, and who better to play it than one of the all time greats.
Lloyd's playing is always most impressive, but the Hank Williams tribute performed with Don Helms showed another side of Lloyd. It showed his great appreciation -- reverance, may have been the term he used -- for greatness that proceeded his own. I see that trait in a lot of my idols in music and sports. It's really special when they help us to understand what (who) inspired them.
I was also impressed by the tone and playing of Don Helms. All of our focus on copedants and effects is lost on this guy. His playing is as fresh as when her first layed down those great licks.
Lloyd and Don gave all the ISGC attendees something we'll always remember. Special thanks to them both.
I hear that Lloyd is doing studio work again now. I'll count on you guys--not country radio -- to let us know when something hits the market.
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Eddie Lange
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 9:09 pm
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| I say it everytime I hear him play, Lloyd Green is the greatest E9 player of ALL time. |
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Dave Birkett
From:
Oxnard, CA, USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 11:20 pm
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| The Sho-Bud has a 24 1/2 inch scale, if I remember correctly. That's a 1/2 longer than most Buds. |
In Ask Buddy, BE said that the Bud he played on the Nightlife album and the one Jimmy Day played had a 25" scale. They broke 3rd strings like crazy. With all the pedal licks LG does, does he have that problem? |
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Red Kilby
From:
Pueblo, CO, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 2 Sep 2002 11:34 pm
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I agree with you Eddie, Lloyd is my favorite E9th player also.
But they don't call him "MR. NASHVILLE SOUND"
for nothing<<<<<<. |
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Marco Schouten
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 3 Sep 2002 6:37 am
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Dave, Lloyd's guitar is equipped with a shorter keyhead to avoid that problem.
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Steelin' Greetings
Marco Schouten
Sho-Bud Pro III Custom; Sho-Bud LLG
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Earl Yarbro
From:
Bowie, Texas, USA
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Posted 3 Sep 2002 12:30 pm
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Lloyd and Don! A CLASSIC that will be remembered from now on. There were many misty eys in that place, mine included.
Earl |
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erik
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Posted 3 Sep 2002 10:03 pm
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Earnest wrote
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| E.F. Hutton is bankrupt, disgraced, guilty of several thousand counts of mail and wire fraud, and as dead and forgotten as a Ray Price shuffle |
I always wondered what happened to them. Maybe i should have said, "... like the E. F. Hutton tag line." |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 4 Sep 2002 10:56 am
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Here's the scoop! I was the original purchaser of official SHO-BUD #3, built by Buddy Emmons, and Pedals by Shot Jackson Nov. 1957. The scale on the 8string steels was 25". In '59 or '60 they began building and converting 8string to 9string, which I had done to my 8string. Same body, however; the scale was changed to 24" to accomodate the longer tuning frame, and SHO-BUD has been 24" ever since! I owned about 12 Great Sounding SHO-BUD's up until 1980. I doubt if SHO-BUD ever made even one guitar between 24" and 25". Thank you: "Big John" Bechtel- Nashville - Franklin D-10, (9 +  , L-710's, Goodrich L-120, Goodrich Mod 6a Super-Sustain Match Box, (2) Peavey Nashville 1000's, G.D.Walker S.S.Pre-Amp, Alesis QuadraVerb (+), Peavey TMP-1 Tube-Mic Pre-Amp. |
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Paul Warnik
From:
Illinois,USA
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Posted 4 Sep 2002 11:53 am
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| Lloyds playing was Fantastic I just closed my eyes for a while and tried to really listen to his playing-no doubt about it-Lloyd certainly has his own signature style and sound-the biggest thrill for me was talking to Lloyd after his part and he knew me (my name) without having to see my name tag-being recognized by one of the most admired persons in one's life is a proud moment |
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Mike Weirauch
From:
Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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Posted 5 Sep 2002 8:27 am
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Lloyd called Duane Marrs, who worked for SHO-BUD for many years and still works on his
SHO-BUD and many others) and Duane confirmed
what Lloyd tells people...Which is, 8 SHO-BUD
LDG's, starting with Lloyds first LDG did in-
deed have a 24 1/2" scale, after which SHO-
BUD went to a 24" because of string breakage.
The problem was solved on Lloyd's guitar by
installing a shorter keyhead, thus eliminating excessive 3rd string breakage.
If you look at Lloyd's LDG today, the original keyhead imprint is still visible.
You can confirm all this by calling Duane
at MARRS MUSIC.
Lloyd believes this is a key factor in the
unusually beautiful tone of this SHO-BUD.
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Ron Page
From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2002 9:11 am
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Maybe, but we all agree that the more important tonal factor is situated just behind that key head, on the pak-a-seat.
I wonder if we can spot that imprint on the CP Live at Panther Hall album cover. The lighting was pretty dim, and it's probably a bad angle, but I'll give it a look when I get home.
I heard a rumor that Lloyd has been doing some studio work with Alan Jackson. I've got everything Alan's released to-date and I'll be looking forward to anything new. He's my farvorite of the new breed and there's always loads of great steel on his records (Weldon Myrick, Paul Franklin and Robbie Flint).
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Dag Wolf
From:
Bergen, Norway
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Posted 5 Sep 2002 10:09 am
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Ron, you won`t see the imprint at CP Panther hall album(1970). Lloyd used his D-10 fingertip ShoBud on that album.
I think he got his first LDG in 1973.
Dag |
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