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Topic: Peavey Nashville 112, is it a winner?? |
Bob Bartoli
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2006 11:19 pm
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whats everyone take on the new Nashville 112, I've been using an Old Paevey LTD with a 15" but she sounds mid/honkey, is the Nashville 112 better?? on the fence???thanks in advance for your input..Bob |
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sonbone
From: Waxahachie, TX
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 2:51 am
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If you read all the posts in the Electronics section it will answer your questions. Do a search for the nashville 112 in the electronics section. Many posts on it. |
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Mike Wheeler
From: Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 4:05 am
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Although I have, and love, my 112, if it were my LTD, I'd do the new mod kit that Ken Fox has posted. That would make the LTD a killer tone monster amp. Then I'd be covered for any gig I might come up with. |
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Doug Earnest
From: Branson, MO USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 5:42 am
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I recently acquired a 112. Pretty darn good little amp! I would gladly trade it for an LTD, though..... |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 5:54 am
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My Session 400 sounded honky until I took some expert advice and turned the shift and sensitivity to 10, the mids off, treble and presence at 2 or 3, and the bass at about 8. It took care of the honk. Now it's my amp of choice for everything.
However, no amount of tweaking could help me get rid of the mid-range honk in the Nashville 112. Its EQ does not work like a Session 400, and I gave up trying to get it to suit my sound. I'm not saying I thought it was a bad amp, it just did not deliver the sound I wanted. I think the major issue is that everybody likes a different sound. I've heard some players dial in that honk and really enjoy it. Others want that warm, old school sound. I think those who are used to the Nashville Series of amps will do fine with the 112 - I just couldn't dial in a tone, being used to the Session 400. |
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 5:59 am
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Mike Wheeler has the idea
You already have the HOLY GRAIL, if you are talking about the ORIGINAL (70s-early 80s LTD400 -- NOT the Session 400 Limited). You may just need new filter caps
The 112 is a great little amp but, IMHO, Peavey has been reaching for the great steel amp tone they achieved in the Session 400 and LTD 400 in the 70s. They made lots of changes and added lots of features but I feel that the amps lost their soul. Please note that this is ONLY MY OPINION. I'll take my old Session 400 over ANYTHING Peavey has made since. The LTD is the same amp in a smaller cabinet. The Sarno/Fox mod is the way to go if you caps are starting to dry up and the amp needs a general 'going over'. Send it to Ken. You won't regret it. Of course, if it ain't broke there's no need to fix it.
Once again, just my opinion.
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1984 Sho-Bud S/D-12 7x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Jeff Lampert
From: queens, new york city
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 6:29 am
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whats everyone take on the new Nashville 112 |
It's not so new anymore. It's been out a few years. Peavey has sold tons of these amps. If you read the posts like Jack suggested, you will find that the overwhelming response is that it is a very good sounding amp. It's light-weight makes it particularly flexible and vesatile solution for both rehearsals and gigging in small to medium sized clubs. Many people gig with a pair since they are so light, giving the extra punch they might want for a large club while still maintaining the light weight and flexibility advantages of using one when only one is needed, which is most of the time. I won't do any name-dropping, but if you read the threads in the Electronics forum, many major players are using them as their amp of choice. IMO, it is the best thing Peavey has ever done, their fantastic earlier amps not withstanding.
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richard burton
From: Britain
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 10:40 am
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I recently had the pleasure of playing a Rains PSG through a Session 500, and, after a bit of tweaking,got a very pleasing tone.
Then I put the Rains through a Nashville 112.
It took longer to find a decent tone, but it was still a bit honky.
I put a Boss GE7 graphic equaliser in the signal path, and got a tone out of the Nashville 112 comparable to the Session 500
Incidentally, I was very impressed with the Rains. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From: Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 11:06 am
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You really have to try this amp (112) yourself. I had no luck with it at all. The tone did improve with a few months of use and I was able to improve the sound by using extreme midrange shift positions. Either my Webb amp or my Fender Steel King blows it to bits in terms of warmth, clarity and bass without having to cut the mid range. You really need to try both of these amps yourself before you buy anything. The reverb in the Webb and Fender amps are also much deeper and more tube like.
Greg |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 2:10 pm
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Some like it, some don't and some don't like it because it's a Peavey.
I tried a Steel King, at Bobbe Seymour's and didn't find it was something I wanted.
I also owned an Evans SE-200 and hated it. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 4:28 pm
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I'm with Greg. I tried the 112 and just could not dial in a sound I wanted to hear. Instead of an old Webb, though, I've got an old Evans. I went with a Fender Steel King and found just what I was looking for.
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Lee, from South Texas
Down On The Rio Grande
Mullen U-12, Excel 8-string Frypan, Evans FET-500, Fender Steel King
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 8:01 pm
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I feel that the little Nashville 112 is just what the steel community needed. I know that everyone will not agree on a Nashville, nor a Steel King, nor an Evans, etc., but I do feel that we are on a winning streak with the Nashville 112. Lightweight, powerful enough to cut through, a five year warranty, factory support, custom covering options and more.
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Fred Rushing
From: Odin, IL, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 8:45 pm
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Will someone please tell me what Honky is supposed to mean? Could this be a term that lead players use to describe a certain sound? I am a steel player only. I could only swat flies with anything else. I have a FSK and 112 and have played all the previous peavey steel amps. I can get a good sound from any of them. BUT I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE. YOU CANNOT ASK SOMEONE ELSE TO TELL YOU IF YOU WILL LIKE THE SOUND OF A CERTAIN AMP. IT IS ALL SUBJECTIVE AND THE INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE. |
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2006 8:46 pm
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Hard to deny that Peavey is "on a winning streak" with the NV 112. It's clear they've sold a lot of them, and that a lot of people like them. I hope that won't lull Peavey into not making it better, and in my opinion there is a LOT of room for improvement. Why not make an amp that will still provide, if desired, the honky midrange that a lot of people apparently like (and that simply cannot be gotten rid of in the current version--I tried every possible setting), but have a versatile enough EQ to provide other tone profiles, as well?
Fred, what I mean by honky is a nasal tone quality.[This message was edited by Brint Hannay on 14 November 2006 at 08:50 PM.] |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 12:49 am
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I guess this thread started as a result of me and Bob B. talking about this at the Philly Guitar Show saturday. Of course, any sonic evaluation is subjective, and so is mine.
I've been a confirmed tube amp lover since I started playing guitar a real long time ago. I especially tend to like the scooped-mids blackface/silverface Fender tone stack. From from my conversation with Bob, I think he does also. Even on steel, a good Deluxe Reverb or Twin Reverb at moderate volume is my model for great tone, but depending on the situation, I often find I can't get enough clean juice from them, hence my interest in finding alternatives.
I have had an LTD 400 for a while now - I agree it's a good-sounding amp, but I also think mine tends to sound a bit "honky" when pushed - like Brint, I also mean nasally in the midrange. I've been meaning to modify the tone stack a bit, but haven't yet gotten around to it. I find I can dial this honkiness out a bit better on my Session 500, but at 85 pounds, it's just too big and heavy for a lot of gigs.
So, I spent a couple of days checking both the NV 112 and Steel King out at Bobbe's this summer. I liked them both - I just plugged a variety of guitars straight in, no external effects, and tried to hear the tone of each amp with a wide variety of settings and guitars. However, even though I usually prefer the Fender tone stack, I liked the NV 112 sound better, not to mention the smaller size and weight. To my ears, the sound is warm, but less honky than previous designs. Of course, it depends on the guitar and other factors like pickups, effects, and so on. But if I preamp with a black box, I can even live with a Tele straight into the NV 112 - it's very clean, but still has a good sound. An archtop jazz guitar sounds great straight in. The NV 112 also works very well with a Pod to quickly vary tones between steel and guitar - so much so, that this is what I use as my standard gig setup right now.
To my ears, the Steel King had a more scooped-midrange sound than the NV 112. To my tastes, just a bit more scooped than I wanted. Naturally, this may be exactly what floats many boats. But to my tastes, Bobbe's LDG and Emmons P/P just came alive with the NV 112 - nice warmth, and I was able to dial out the annoying honkiness. But it may be a bit midrangey for some people or situations.
One problem up Nawth here is that it's hard to find a store with a NV 112 or Steel King to try, much less both to do a critical comparison. But, of course, I think it's important to listen for oneself to really hear what's going on.
Naturally, all IMO. |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 5:36 am
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I recently did a 3-day jaunt across the province playing tele, and ran an original Fender '64 BF Deluxe in stereo with a Nashville 112. Great sound together. I actually like my tele through a Nashville 112 more than my Sho~Bud. I ran the preamp fairly high and she cracked up just enough to compliment the Deluxe which was, unsurprisingly, pumping out some serious tone.
I wouldn't hesitate to travel with the Nashville 112 as a guitar amp, but as a steel amp I would be frustrated trying to dial something in. The Session 400 remains my choice for steel, after using the Nashville 112, Music Man and BF/SF Fenders. Once again, a matter of taste. |
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Sonny Priddy
From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 5:55 pm
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I Have A Nashville 112 And A New Peavey valve King I Got From bobbie Seymour They Are Great Amps. The Valve King Is A Tube Amp Sounds Great. SONNY.
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From: Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 6:02 pm
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Nashville 112.Yes!!! |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 6:57 pm
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It's very interesting to read the various opinions. |
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Mike Kowalik
From: San Antonio,Texas
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 7:39 pm
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Wonder if there's any chance Peavey would increase the output of the 112 to 100 watts or so? |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 8:31 pm
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How about a Session 112? |
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Ernest Cawby
From: Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 8:49 pm
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At first I did not like the 112, but when I dialed in Randy's settings I found the answer. It is plenty loud, I use it with the volume set at 1 and a half, plenty loud at saluda, A man came in the back after my set and wanted to know what I was doing, he said it was the best sounding 112 he had ever heard. I put In Johns settings, turned the mid of all the way down and set some other tweekings and it sounde great I was told by several. At the volume settings at 1 1/2 it fills the dance hall at Quitman with plenty of volume. Never have used more than that at all the places I have played.
ernie |
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George Redmon
From: Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 15 Nov 2006 10:23 pm
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I bought 3 Nashville 112's, i am down to one now. The other two grew legs and walked away. My daughter ended up with one, my girlfriend ended up with one for fiddle, and by god, if i have to borrow someones killer pitbull, oh dad is gonna keep the last one...it's a good little amp for practice and for playing at church. Now, it's not my webb, or steel king. But for church, and some of my smaller jobs it's a good "Little" amp. I recommend it for a good sounding light amp, just what mike brown says it is. I agree, it is no wheres close to the original session 400. I had an original Peavey Session 400, bought it from steeler Frank Rogers daddy, when he had the music store in muskegon mi. It all went down hill for peavey after the Session 500. It's just my opinion of course, but i have played through them all. Other then the "Baby Nashville" i haven't owned a peavey amp in years. [This message was edited by George Redmon on 15 November 2006 at 10:28 PM.] |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2006 2:45 am
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Can you sound "honky" and still play with "soul?"
I get so-oo confused here.... |
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