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Topic: 1x12 Extension Cab |
Tom Gorr
From: Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 23 Oct 2006 10:12 pm
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Looking to go away from combo amp to rack power amp + 1x12 ext cab.
This is for electric 6 string, classic rock + country.
What style (Open, 3/4, closed back) is best for miking w/SM57 ?
What extension cab would you recommend ?
[This message was edited by Tom Gorr on 23 October 2006 at 11:22 PM.] |
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 4:45 am
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Tom. I would recommend making a cabinet that closely mimics the inner and outer dimensions of a black face or silver face Fender Deluxe Reverb. That shape, size, and rear baffling matches a 12" speaker perfectly in my opinion. Just the right flavor of bass and midrange voicing.
Brad
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 6:12 am
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I'm looking for the exact same thing for a portable, light rig - you don't say if weight and size is a big factor for you. Ideally, I've heard that you want to pick the speaker first. I am looking at these two closely:
Jensen NEO12-100
Eminence Deltalite II
The Jensen comes in 4, 8 and 16 ohms, the Eminence handles more power. I am trying to keep the weight down, and I was reading about the cabinet for the Fender Jazzmaster amp:
Fender J-Master Cabinet
It's made out of "Italian polar plywood", whatever the heck THAT is, and it weighs 17 lbs total!(?) That speaker is 2 ohms to match the specific new Fender SS amp, but I might get one of the guys here to make me a cab, if they can get some of thet-thar Eye-talian plywood.... I didn't know Eye-taly even had a pole....
With an open back cabinet you can set it in a corner for some natural room reverb, and I think it gives you a few more miking options for recording. I gather that it's much more important to match cab to speaker with a closed back design. |
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Rick Summers
From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 6:27 am
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Here ya go, Tom.
Lots more where this came from
Let me know, Partner!
Rick
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Rick Summers -
RAWOODS Custom Cabinets
www.rawoods.com
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T. C. Furlong
From: Lake County, Illinois, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 6:39 am
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Er, Dave, that's Italian POPLAR plywood. Fender site typo. I think that means that alot of people really like it.
For six string, I'd have to agree that an open back is a good way to go and Brad is right on the money with the Fender Deluxe size recommendation. And Dave is right about more options for recording with an open back. The mids and highs exiting the cabinet from the rear can cause some interesting collisions to the sides and top of the cab. Sometimes they are really good and sometimes they are really bad. Most guitar players will end up with a 2-12" cab for stage use because it is the only way to get enough bass at higher volumes.
If you want some low end and some extra volume for a loud stage and you want consistency, I think a closed-back single 12" cab is the ticket. But Dave is right when he says it's important to match the cabinet to the speaker.
TC |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 8:48 am
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Get one with a sliding door in the back, so you can use it either way. It's just a thought, but I have been impressed with the Vox small combos with closed backs (and long throw speakers?). That allows them to get the same volume and bass response from a smaller speaker - a 10" can sound like a 12". |
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Rick Summers
From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2006 9:23 am
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The "sliding door" idea is interesting. I'll have to think on that a spell...
Pictured is a 1x15 convertible I built for a jazz/rock/cover player in Malibu. Says it's the most versatile cabinet in his lot. Very clean with punch when sealed, with lots of variations when the rear "hatch" is removed. I could employ the same techniques in a smaller 1x12 cab, I reckon. I'd estimate the weight of such a cab, at least 20-23 lbs.- unloaded.
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Rick Summers -
RAWOODS Custom Cabinets
www.rawoods.com
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