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Topic: Behringer mixer question |
Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 7:45 am |
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I have a little Behringer Eurorack 802 mixer and am using it with my computer (iMac) and the Garageband recording software. I do not have a USB or Firewire interface, so the mixer is going into the Line In jack on the computer.
I have noticed latency issues if when recording if I turn on the "monitor" switch on the track I am recording, so I keep that off while recording the individual track I'm recording.
I want to mix the input signal while recording a track with the other tracks that are playing, but only through the headphones, so I can hear what I'm playing along with the other tracks in real time as I'm recording. To do this I've run a cord from the headphone out to the mixer into the "Tape Input" jacks.
So far so good.
I then use the "Tape Mix" button and can hear the recorded tracks along with my guitar but here's the problem - the recorded tracks are being added to my guitar's and the track I'm recording, instead of having just my guitar, has the other tracks combined with it. Obviously this is not what I want!
I can not for the life of me figure out a way to mix the recorded tracks along with my guitar through the phones and only have my guitar record on the track. This seems like a basic mixer function!
Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks
Bill
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 8:14 am
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I'm looking at a pic of the Behringer 802 mixer, and there's one crucial function missing: the option of routing the individual channels to either the "mix out" or "ctrl room out" outputs. If it'd had that it would have been a no-brainer..... Hmmm....
Have you experimented with running the mixer output from the main "ctrl room out" while routing the tape input to "mix out" and listening from the mixers headphone output? (You'd need to listen through headphones from the mixer though, unless you have another stereo you can use to monitor the signal).
Just a shot in the dark, I'm not much good at figuring out such issues without sitting down with the actual 'issue'.......
Steinar
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[This message was edited by Steinar Gregertsen on 11 March 2006 at 08:17 AM.] |
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Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 9:24 am
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Steinar said:
"Have you experimented with running the mixer output from the main "ctrl room out" while routing the tape input to "mix out" and listening from the mixers headphone output? (You'd need to listen through headphones from the mixer though, unless you have another stereo you can use to monitor the signal)."
The mixer output from main "ctrl room out" is mixed with the tape input when pressing the "Tape to Ctrl Room/Phones" switch and I can listen to the whole mix through the mixer's Phones jack, which is what I'm doing. Unfortunately, that mix gets sent to out the Main Out, rather than just the instrument I'm currently playing. |
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Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 9:41 am
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OK, I think I know what the problem is and the solution...
I've been sending the mixers signal to the computer via one of the "Main Out" jacks. Instead, I should be sending it through the "Tape Out" jacks. That way, I can use "Tape to Ctrl Room/Phones" switch and in theory not have the summed mix routed to the computer.
Thanks Steinar for making me think about this more. |
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Scott Appleton
From:
Ashland, Oregon
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 10:47 am
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to get real low latency return from your
"puter you will need a usb or firewire interface. They come at a low price these days.
Otherwise its hard to add tracks to what you
have allready recorded.
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Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 12:39 pm
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Hey Scott, we're practically neighbors! It hailed here so much last night that it looked like we'd had a heavy snow this morning. Freaky weather.
Yeah, I know it's best with a USB or Firewire interface but I've been having pretty good luck with this low tech/minimal cost solution for what I'm doing, which is usually just a few tracks, and is just for fun.
Here's some of the stuff I've done: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=440617
The track I was working on when this came up was "Wah Wah Jam". I was going for a live kin d of sound with low production values, like a concert bootleg. |
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Richard Durrer
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 1:12 pm
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Just to add my two cents in the subject. I currently run a Behringer UB1204FX, with PROTOOLS Free on my PC. The trick is to run the Line-out from the PC into one of the standard tracks, ie TRACK 7/8 and the Line-In from the PC to the Tape OUT of the board. This Behringer model (approx $60.00 on EBAY)allows one to MUTE the track which then sends the track to the ALT-3-4 subgroup.
After laying down the first track, MUTE the new track in the PC program, then MUTE (ALT-3-4) the track on the board which sends it to the headphones/Control room only. You can then listen to the base track on the phones, and record the second track live with no latency problem. Just keep adding new tracks until you are done. Then go to the PC and do the mixing of all the tracks. |
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Bill Leff
From:
Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 12:52 pm
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| Richard, turns out you were right on the money. My model does not have this feature. Time to upgrade. |
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