Hilton Sus

Ken Metcalf · From: San Antonio Texas USA

Hi Everybody
I bought a Hilton Sustainer and the tone knob spins 3/4 around and doesn't do much,
then has a spot that is very touchy.
I use this with a Hilton vol. ped.
Is this Touchy-ness same as you guys have found with yours ???

Ken Metcalf D-10 Carson Wells

Paul Norman · From: Washington, North Carolina, USA

It sounds like the set screw in the knob is
loose. I didnt think you needed a sustain with the hilton pedal. I thought it was built into the pedal electronically.
Keith Hilton will tell you.

Robert Porri · From: Windsor, Connecticut, USA

I bet this thread is on it's way to Electronics.

I'm certain Paul is correct about the Digital Sustain being part of the circuitry of the Hilton Volume Pedal already. Keith seems to verify that here http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum11/HTML/000848.html

Bob P.

[This message was edited by Robert Porri on 05 January 2006 at 08:45 PM.]

[This message was edited by Robert Porri on 05 January 2006 at 08:46 PM.]

Ken Metcalf · From: San Antonio Texas USA

I'm wondering if these units are not designed to work together.. sounds good though.. I sent K. Hilton this question

Ken Metcalf D-10 Carson Wells

Robert Porri · From: Windsor, Connecticut, USA

Ken,
Please followup with what Keith Hilton says. I'm always open for new information. I did wonder about this when I purchased my Hilton Volume Pedal also, and have been convinced that the volume pedal essentially already has the sustain "unit" in it and there would be no advantage to adding the separate sustain. I'd like to mention also what a pleasure Keith Hilton was to deal with. I'm sure you'll find this out also.

Bob P.

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Keith Hilton · From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721

Thanks to everyone using my products, I am honored. Doug Jernigan and I first developed the Digital Sustain. We experimented with many combinations while Doug as playing on the Opry with Jack Green. When I developed my volume pedal, the Digital Sustain was put in the pedal as the first stage in the circuit. The second stage of the circuit controls the volume. The only difference between the Digital Sustain circuit you clip on the leg of your steel, and the circuit in the pedal is the feedback loop. It is a fixed value inside the pedal, but the Digital Sustain has a knob you can control the feedback loop. The feedback loop increases gain. Pre-amping a pre-amp electronically is considered redundant. I personally only use my pedal. I do have many users who use my Digital Sustain with my pedal. They get something they like. You do get increased signal strength, hence response. Maybe that is what they like. I personally don't think there is an improvement in tone quality, but that is just my opinion. So, if you like using both, go for it, let your ear be your guide.
Remember every powered device creates gain.
Like gas poured on a fire, too much gas and the fire gets out of control. The same is true of pre-amps in your signal chain creating too much gain. Once you overdrive the signal with too much gain you get distortion. When this happens you have to turn stuff down in the signal chain. Ken, the tone knob is connected to a .02 uf capacitor to ground. All the way over should give you worlds of bass, and trebble cut. One thing I need to mention about the tone controls on my pedal and on my Digital Sustain. If they are not put next to the guitar, or first in the signal chain, they may not work at all. The tone control
usually will not work down stream, if the pedal feed is a pre-amped line level signal. This also depends if the output of the pedal sees high impedance or low impedance. Ken, put the Digital Sustain first in the signal chain, then turn the tone control. If you don't hear more bass and less trebble, send the Sustain to me for repairs. Hope this information helps.

[This message was edited by Keith Hilton on 06 January 2006 at 09:33 PM.]

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