Reccomendation for delay pedal

Dave Zirbel · From: Sebastopol, CA USA

Hi guys. Since I've been playing electric instruments I've always been old school/bare bones. I occasionally use an overdrive/boost pedal(only when I can't turn my amp up for tube distortion) and I use the spring reverb and even the tremelo(for guitar) sometimes.

Our show last weekend was recorded proffesionally and quality sounds quite good. I was playing mostly Telecaster and some steel. When listening to playback I noticed that the sound man put some delay on my guitar solos and it really opened up the sound. I liked it. I'm thinking about getting one but I don't want too many options. I need things to be simple so I don't want a big rack mount processor with tons of settings. I would probably use it some with steel too so I need one that doesn't affect the pure sound of my rig. Some pedals will muddy up the tone even when turned off. A pedal with digital reverb as well as delay would be good since a few of my amps don't have reverb.

Thanks and Happy Holidays.

Dave

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Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

Dave,
I haven't tried this pedal yet, but heard Dan Tyack use one and thought it sounded killer... The Line 6 Echo Park (Deley only, but lots of cool settings to be had).
~pb

Gaylon Mathews · From: Jasper, Georgia

I have a Boss DD-3 mounted in the back of my Steel King. It is routed through the effects loop on the back and set to where it has just a very slight slapback. Just enough to thicken things up a bit. It's a great little unit.

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Dave Zirbel · From: Sebastopol, CA USA

Thanks fellers! I'll check'em out probably after the Holidays. Y'all have a Merry one!

DZ

Jim Sliff · From: Lawndale California, USA

Dave - I've been using delay units for many years, back tto the old tube Echoplex. The best ones you can find IMO are:

1. the H&K Replex. It's a tube-driven tape delay emulator that even hhas a "vintage" knob that simulates thhe hiss, wow and flutter of an Echoplex. Also has a decent reverb and a tube clean-boost built in! Pricey and not tiny, but absolutely the beest bang for the buck and the best sound ever.

2. A used Ibanez EM-5 Echomachine. It's one of the discontinued "sound tank" series, and is a digital delay that has some analog warmth to it. By far the best stompbox. Worth waiting for.

Those are the two "prizes" IMO. OTOH, if you want a straight digital delay with optional chorus in a rack-mount, I have an Ibanez DM 2000 I'd let go cheap. Nice clean sounding unit, I just don't do rack stuff anymore. It has a 2-space soft rack case.

Kevin Ruddell · From: Toledo Ohio USA

Last months Guitar Player did a delay pedal shootout and one of the editors picks was the Rocktron Retro Short Timer pedal for $59.00 . I just got one from Elderly Instruments and I'm very happy with the warm analog sounds I'm getting from this digital delay pedal . It won't do tapped rythms or long delays but what it does do is perfect for most of what you use . Excellent for surf , country and blues. It's way better than the Digitech Digidelay I have and warmer sounding than the Boss unit.

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

Dave, a tad more money than some of the stomp boxes, but thought by many to be an excellent modern answer to the great sounding old tape echo units is the Chandler Dig. Echo I have posted over on the buy and sell board. It is kind of a one-trick pony as it only does delay and modulation[chorus], but has no noise, it doesn't mess with your tone in the Bypass mode, and sounds terrific. Here's the link if you are interested.

http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum17/HTML/003565.html

Ron Randall · From: Dallas, Texas, USA

The DD6 is a very good all around pedal.

hope this helps

Ron

Darrell Owens · From: California, USA

Carl Martin DeLaya - if you can find one.

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Jon Jaffe · From: Austin, Texas

Dave, it seems to me that there are two types of delay sounds that people look for. One is “that ole analog sound”. The other is an exact replication type sound. One is NOT better than the other. It is the subjective opinion type debate. The old tape delays and the Ibanez AD-9 do not reproduce the initial sound as well as newer digital delay boxes. Moreover, the newer delay pedals get better and better at it with all sorts of added variables. That said, some of the newer ones like the Mr Echo, try to emulate the analog sound. Also there are kits out there where the DD-5s are modified to make them sound more analog.

From what I have seen, the old sound advocates call it “warmer”, thus colder being left for the more digital sound. One could call the old sound dirtier and the newer sound cleaner. 6-string pickers create many of these opinions. Another side issue is whether or not it has true bypass. Many of the newer pedals do, but the rack delays frequently do not.

I have recently bought and sold the Mr Echo, that Brad Sarno likes. I never cared for my Japanese AD-9, and was delighted that it fetched so much money when I did sell it. I prefer a cleaner delay than a dirty one; or, if you prefer, a colder sound.

In sum I like the Guyatone delay pedal. The pros are that it is clean and very compact. It’s cons are that it eats batteries and they are tedious to replace, so I use a power supply. The rack units are a whole other subject.

I suspect the MTs are missing you come back to Austin for a visit.

Dave Zirbel · From: Sebastopol, CA USA

Thanks everyone for the replies. I'll have to figure out a way to test drive some of these units.

Jon, I was invited to Austin to record with the Mt's at Ray Benson's place but it didn't work out. Too close to the holidays, etc. I'll remind them that you're out there. Maybe they'll have your do some tracking.

They're coming out this week to visit their families and we have a few shows too. Hope all is well in Texas. Say hi to Neil for me.

DZ

Chip McConnell · From: San Francisco, California, USA

Hey Dave-
I have a Boss DM2. It adds a very warm "small room reverb" kind of echo for lack of a better term, which I use with 6-string constantly. Also has a good slapback if you need that. I've found it less useful for steel. Point being, you're welcome to take it home for a test drive if you like. Happy Holidays-
Chip

Frank Parish · From: Nashville,Tn. USA

The Boss DD-5 does it all for me. You can pat out the exact delay you want for every tune with four pats of your foot using the seperate pedal that plugs into it and it doesn 't change your tone at all. It's clean like digital should be and for steel playing, that makes sense to me. I used the Ibanez AD-9 until I got this one.

David Wren · From: Placerville, California, USA

Dave, I use a Lexicon rack-mount unit, the MPX-110, but have made a wire holder for it that clips on the right legs of my steel (everything at your finger tips). I would look for two features in any delay box:
1. Stereo outputs
2. "Tap" control of the echo speed

With that said, I only occassionally use delay on my steel. More often I use the MPX-110 for rotary speaker simulation or subtle "pitch" effects (2nd stereo channel a cent or two flat of channel 1).

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[This message was edited by David Wren on 27 December 2005 at 09:35 AM.]

John Bechtel · From: Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.

Since I’m quite happy with the inboard reverb of my ’65 Re-Issue Fender Twin~Reverb Custom™ 15, I’m using my old Ibanez AD-9 Analog Delay unit! (approx. 225ms sparelingly, with no repeats) It’s not really something I want to be outstanding in my sound! It’s more for adding a little more Sustain.

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Brad Sarno · From: St. Louis, MO USA

One thing I really like in a delay pedal is to have the "dry" signal path remain analog while the "delay" circuit can be either analog or digital and just gets mixed in along with the analog dry path. Now to find this aspect along with a "tap tempo" control would be real nice. I think the T-Rex does this. The Line6 Echo Park is pretty impressive sounding to the point where I may be able to tolerate the fact that my dry signal has been converted to digital and back again to analog. But in general it's nice to know the guitar is analog all the way thru. I won't say that I can always hear the difference, but I sleep better knowing it's analog

Brad

Brad Sarno · From: St. Louis, MO USA

Found it! Got it today here in St. Louis at Killer Vintage. (www.killervintage.com). It's what I had hoped someone would make plus a very cool extra feature of two delays. One set and one tap tempo'd. You can toggle between the two. Each has its own volume level. There is a tone control for the echoes too. Nice, clean, well made, sounds fantastic.

Check it out:
http://www.dlseffects.com/echotap.php

Brad

Michael Brebes · From: Northridge CA

I've been very pleased with the Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeler. Three preset footswitches for different types of modelled delays and a fourth footswitch for tapping in delay time changes. Have an old echoplex and Roland Space echo, but this is so much easier to use live and the tones are very close.

Billy Carr · From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)

I've used the BOSS DD-3 & RV-3 delay/reverb box. Both are good but sound different. Currently I'm using a Carter S-12U w/ XR-16 p/u. Amp is a FSK. Volume pedal is a Goodrich LDR and Ibanez AD-9 for analog delay. Warm and mellow with rich highs anywhere on the neck in either tuning mode. Very nice.

Steinar Gregertsen · From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.

Another vote for the DSL EchoTap here,- bought mine a couple of months ago and I love it.
The ability to switch between a set and a tapped delay time, individual volume controls, plus the tone control, makes it hard to beat.

Steinar

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Tony Prior · From: Charlotte NC

anything without a battery

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