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Topic: Where can I get a pot for my Goodrich? |
Graham Lathrop
From:
Dallas TX
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 8:14 am |
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| Also....how do I install the thing? I have had it for a year now and the scratching is driving me nuts. I guess I will just take it as a sign of all the practicing I have been doing. Any input is appreciated. Thanks! |
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Webb Kline
From:
Orangeville, PA
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 9:19 am
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| I'm sure Bobbe Seymour or Billy COoper can fix you up. There is a better pot available that is suppose to last much longer. I know Billoy had them when I was down there a couple of months ago. |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 9:56 am
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| I sent mine to Dick Meis and he had it fixed and sent it back to me, good as new. 303-428-4397 |
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Jon Jaffe
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 4:55 pm
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Ollie Goodrich
Goodrich Sound Co.
8733 Silver Creek Road
Whitehall, MI 49461
(231) 893-5702 (231) 893-7004 FAX |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 6:44 pm
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Graham, select Misc. Info from this page from Scotty's Music for pedal restringing diagrams. Installing the pot is a bit tedious since you don't take the pedal apart and given the space you have to work in, but pretty straightforward if you make notes of the wiring connections and the postion of the sleeve in relation to the shaft rotation before you remove the pot. http://www.scottysmusic.com/
I believe there are complete instructions somewhere in the links on installation, but I can't remember where it it. Possibly Carter's site. [This message was edited by Jerry Overstreet on 23 October 2005 at 08:00 PM.] |
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James Martin (U.K.)
From:
Watford, Herts, United Kingdom * R.I.P.
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 12:39 am
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| Hi Graham, I've just received two pots from George L's site. By the time I had paid shipping and custom charges they cost me $80.00. Within two days the pot was just as noisy as the one I had taken out. If I were you I would think twice before buying a Clarostat I've had nothing but trouble from them. James. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 2:16 am
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In one of Bobbe Seymour's recent newsletters he noted he is discontinuing selling pot type volume pedals and the replacement pots - because of the poor quality of pots that are now available.
I and many others have moved on to the electronic volume pedals (Hilton's) for that exact reason - no decent pots. |
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Graham Lathrop
From:
Dallas TX
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 3:24 am
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| Thanks for all the information everyone. I am certainly planning to upgrade to the Hilton just as soon as my wallet can afford to. Again, much thanks. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 5:40 am
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The Electronic volume pedals do cost more, but considering the price of replacement pots and the short life of many new pots, it doesn't take too long to equal the cost of the electronic pedals.
That excludes the other benefits, such as constant tone, no volume loss, etc. |
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Bill Crook
From:
Goodlettsville, TN , Spending my kid's inheritance
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 1:02 pm
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O.K. All you guys with POT pedals..........
Get yourself about 2-3 inches of that copper solder-wick stuff and secure one end to the moveable part of the pedal,secure the other end to the non-moveable section. This will eleminate just about 99.9% of your scratching problems !!
The real problem is:
Static electricty being developed as the 2 sections are rubbed aginst each other. I have done this "mod" to several pedals for not only "Steel" but for 6-string players too. I have replaced a few pots with (dare I say it,) RADIO-SHACK 500k linear taper pots. My own pedal, which I've been useing now for almost 4 years has a RS pot. I don't play clubs and dances now like I used to but,still play an hour or so each day. I've had to replace the string a couple of times tho.
I offered this sugesstion 2 or 3 years ago here on the forumn, Several of you tried it and e-mailed me saying "That fixed it". I also suggest putting a metal plate on the bottom of the pedal to completely cover any open spots. You would be suprised to how much humm this will cut down on. Especially if your doing an outdoor gig. !!
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 1:12 pm
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Lately, I've been using plain old CTS audio taper volume pots. No, they're not rated at a gazillion rotations, they're not military spec, and they're not even totally sealed. But they do have great tone and smooth taper. I set 'em so they don't quite go totally off when you back the pedal all the way down. Best thing is, I can get ahold of them for less than the price of a set of strings. So...what the heck!!!
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 3:45 pm
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Goodrich will replace it for about $33, including shipping. Just got one back. I'll never attempt to change it [by myself] again for this price. Too much screwing around to get the ON/OFF just right.
It's worth it, just sending it back to the guys that know how to do it, and with ease. |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 4:15 pm
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| Spirit Steel Guitar in Broken Arrow, Ok. Phone: 918-258-7830. Fast turn around. |
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Bill R. Baker
From:
Clinton, MS USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 4:22 pm
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| Jay, where to you get the CTS audio taper pot. Thanks. |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 6:13 pm
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Bill,
I've put them in Emmons pedals. Since the shaft is a bit on the short side, I'm not sure if they'd work in other pedals without some improvising. One place to get them is here
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Michael Garnett
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 7:58 pm
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GeorgeL's sells them on their website, the Clarostat version.
But I'm with the other guys, after several going bad after seemingly no time at all, I bought a Hilton. I'd say the best investment I ever made, and along with good quality cables, I'm hearing frequencies I'd never heard before. I've had to back the highs off a lot on my amp settings and the clarity is incredible.
-MG |
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 8:20 pm
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Scottysmusic has a good diagram of winding a pot. Misc. Instructions-Goodrich pot.
I disassembled mine and sprayed it with
contact cleaner. Then rewound by this inst.
You do have to set it right for it to be right on volume control. |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2005 11:21 pm
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The Hilton Pedals may seem like an expensive alternative at first glance... I've been using one of Keith's pedals since he first offered them some years ago. Never a failure, never a scratch, a noise, or any downtime. Nothing but pure clean tone. I would have been through $300+ in pots by this time. Pretty much a no-brainer for me.
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 25 Oct 2005 5:28 am
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I agree 100% with Mark and Jack on the Hilton pedal.
I've had mine now almost two years and never looked back. I had to use my Goodrich pedal for a student recently and even though they still are tops for pot pedals I heard the loss in highs right away.
Invest in a Hilton, you'll be glad you did.
Don |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 25 Oct 2005 5:30 am
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| Please delete double post. [This message was edited by Don Sulesky on 25 October 2005 at 06:32 AM.] |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 25 Oct 2005 8:02 am
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| Al Brisco installed a Clarostat pot in my Goodrich L120 pedal almost 3 years ago and I've had no problem with it. And no wall-wart. |
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Jim Hinton
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 26 Oct 2005 6:41 am
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I was looking at Hilton's website, and the cost of his pedals is pretty darn expensive!
From the looks of it, it's a Goodrich pedal with different "guts", am I correct?
Being an electronic "technogeek" myself, I began to wonder how hard it would be to convert existing Goodrich pedals over to optoelectronics, such as the Hilton pedal.
If it can be done "cost effectively", and in a professional manner would any of you guys be interested in converting your old pedal to new guts?
Would Keith Hilton want to sue me for doing it? I don't need any legal trouble, but it sounds like a lot of us "old timers" could use a Goodrich modification.
Hmm, maybe I should just keep quiet and figure this stuff out before I say anymore, eh? |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 26 Oct 2005 8:53 am
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Jim, I am a working electronic technician. I know enough about the Hilton pedal that I would not attempt to build it. After you learn what the Hilton has in it, I am sure you would rather buy than build.
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Jim Hinton
From:
Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 26 Oct 2005 9:23 am
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Hi John:
I haven't taken apart a Hilton pedal, but am aware that photoresistors such as Cadium sulphide photocells can be bought at Radio Shack in a quantity of 5 for $2.50!
What else does this pedal have in it? An audio op amp? Those must cost at least $2.00.
Anyway, it got me thinking, and you know how dangerous that can be! A little knowledge is dangerous!
I just got to thinking about modifying my own old Goodrich pedal when I saw Hilton's website. From what I know (which is almost nothing at this point) it seemed that I could do a modification for as little as buying a new pot!
I have read some of the comments from people on this forum, and some of you guys "flat know your stuff"!! I'm an RF engineer, and I certainly do not know audio like some of the members I have read posts from.
Am I dreaming about this modification being simple and cheap?
[This message was edited by Jim Hinton on 26 October 2005 at 10:24 AM.] |
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