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Tony Harris

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2005 6:39 am    
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Anyone have any experience of using the Pro Tools 002? It would seem to suit what I need, except for the fact that it only has 4 mic inputs, and no talkback mic(obviously aimed at the home singer-songriter). Mackie do a controller (but no audio or way of getting the signal into your computer), or they do an analogue mixer with 16 mic inputs, a built-in talkback mic, interface with the computer - but it's not a controller! I suggested to Mackie they could get one up on Digidesign by making a combined mixer/controller. They said it was "a cool idea", but had no plans to build one. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Dave Boothroyd


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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2005 11:08 am    
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It might be worth checking what Behringer have got on the US market.
Here is a quote from the latest Sound on Sound.
This is a new item, which is under test and review about 500 yards from here- I'll let you know how it turns out if you wish. It's an audio input card with faders which control the virtual ones on your on screen mixer.
And it's cheap!
"The Next Stage: The BCA2000
If you're thinking, like me, that the logical step beyond these two USB-equipped MIDI controllers is to add audio interfacing to create a composite front-end system for a music computer offering audio I/O and extensive MIDI-control facilities, then we're thinking right on Behringer's wavelength.
The B-Control Audio BCA2000 wasn't yet available as I concluded this review [it turned up at SOS just as we were going to press — Ed], but will be one of the few USB 2.0-equipped multi-channel audio interfaces on the market, and also offers basic one-in, two-out MIDI interfacing.
The audio side is quite well thought-out, with a choice of analogue sources: one high-impedance guitar input is joined by a pair of phantom-powered mic inputs and a stereo line input pair. Only three analogue inputs can be used at any one time, but they can be treated to simple dynamics processing, in the shape of a noise gate and limiter.
Digitally, the interface is equipped with optical and co-axial connectors, but is compatible with ADAT, S/PDIF and AES-EBU formats. There are apparently surround monitoring options, too. In total, the interface can handle eight input and eight output audio channels simultaneously. Metering is well-thought out, as are the monitoring options. Behringer promise low-latency ASIO 2 and WDM audio drivers.
Fidelity fans will welcome the 96kHz 24-bit convertors, and wallet-watchers will breath a sigh of relief at the proposed retail price: £180. Watch out for a review in SOS soon!"


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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2005 12:31 pm    
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What's crucial is the software that supports true bypass mode on the inputs...the latency issue of sound-cards is really a bugbear for both vocalists and instrumentalists..In a studio environment monitoring THROUGH the sound-card involves some latency.. It's really not acceptable, the performer HAS to have a return that's latency free otherwise they tend to loose both pitch and timing..
To do this properly requires an EXTERNAL mixing console of some sort, and, an engineer who understands the performer's requirements..
IMHO...
An afterthought.. a second hand Yamaha ProMix 01 is really cheap nowadays.. try E-Bay...
Basil

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Randy Beavers


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Post  Posted 14 Apr 2005 4:09 am    
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I have the 002 Rack setup. Very easy to learn to use. For me, compatibility was the most important issue. To be able to bring files home from a big studio and work on them at home. The mic preamps are useable, but you'll probably want to get a better preamp in time. Also, Pro Tools files are able to be accessed by PCs or Mac. I have a Mac formatted hard drive that I take to the studio for tracking, (most all studios run Mac.) I bring it home and simply load it onto my PC and start working.
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Gavin Dunn

 

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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 14 Apr 2005 10:46 am    
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I too have the 002 rack unit, and have no complaints.
I was told by a pro audio friend that it was better than the all inclusive model.
For a talk back, I bought a Samson C-control...$150 or so.
I use this with a Mac G4.

I'm very happy with it.

gd.
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Gavin Dunn

 

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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 14 Apr 2005 10:48 am    
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Oh, I forgot....

The 002 has 8 in's...only 4 focusrite pre's though.

gd.
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wt golden

 

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Houston, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 16 Apr 2005 12:32 am    
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The Digi 002 has 8 analog inputs but it also has 8 ADAT optical inputs which can be used at the same time. Several really nice 8 channel mic pres are available with this ADAT out - check out the Focusrite isa220 and isa428, Focusrite Platinum Range: OctoPre, Behringer's ADA8000, M-Audio Octane, Digimax LT and 96k models, Mackie Onyx 800r, the list goes on ... some are "really nicer" than others. Just one of these mic pres with your system will give you 16 active inputs.

(I am not sure about this, but I think you can use the 2 SPDIF inputs as well if you have a pre with SPDIF outs and this will give you an additional 2 channels making 18 active inputs - but it might be an either/or with the SPDIF and ADAT inputs)

Either way 16 ins is pretty nice - and that it is all on Pro Tools is very nice as well, because you can lay down as many tracks at home where it is cheap, then take a hard drive with the session on it to any Pro Tools studio and it will be compatible there to be mixed or mastered or whatever.
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Cor Muizer Jr

 

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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2005 1:12 pm    
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willy , your right with the adat and the spdif you will come through 18 inputs


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