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Topic: PODxt - Flat Settings for Microphone? |
Peter
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Posted 15 Jul 2004 11:23 am |
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I have my PODxt set up for direct recording into my computer.
I would like to use it as a microphone input as well for recording acoustic instruments.
What is the best setting for a microphone? (SM57)
And how do I make sure that the EQ is 100% flat?
I do not have the equipment to do A/B testing or to do a frequency analysis.
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Peter den Hartogh
78 Emmons S10 P/P; Fender Artist S10;
Remington U12; Gibson BR4; Guya "Stringmaster"
My Animation College in South Africa
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Brad Sarno
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St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2004 12:12 pm
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Turn off the amp and cabinet modeling. Then it's totally flat.
Brad Sarno |
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Peter
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Posted 15 Jul 2004 12:59 pm
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Thanks, Brad.
And the Tone Control settings? Should they all be at 12o'clock? |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2004 1:26 pm
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Peter, when the model is turned off, the tone controls have no effect. It doesn't matter where they're set. The volume control will work, but the rest (drive, bass, mid, treble, presence) are all disabled. You can still use effects.
There is a tube-preamp model in there that you may want to try. I don't know if it has a voicing to it or if it's flat with controls at 12 o'clock. You may want to mess with that. I think they even mention in the manual that it's good for using with a microphone. The far left FX button for the compressor should be real cool for using with a mic. It's a model of the classic LA-2A studio compressor, and industry favorite. There are also a couple of compressor stomp boxes, but they're more of a guitar pedal model than a studio compressor.
Brad
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Peter
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Posted 15 Jul 2004 1:55 pm
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Thanks again! Great stuff!
I found all info on page 5.27 in the manual.
I try it right away!
Peter[This message was edited by Peter on 15 July 2004 at 03:42 PM.] |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 5:17 am
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Brad, I have a question for you while you are on this subject.
Do you use a flat response as Peter was suggesting?
I would want to tweak for best sound of the acoustic instrument. All instruments have their own individual sound. When I did a lot of recording at home I used eq for everything.
I recorded (steel guitar) in a studio in Memphis many years ago. The engineer connected alligator clips to the speaker in my amp. What a crappy sound. It picked up pick noise that I couldn't hear through the speaker.
When I record at home and connect the guitar directly to the mixer, I have a hard time getting the sound I like. I have a new recorder headed my way that has amp modeling in it. Hopefully it can be used with a direct input....... JD |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 9:16 am
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John. I only use the PODxt for live performance. I play steel and strat. When I'm playing steel, the amp models are OFF and I only use the PODxt for effects, reverb, delay, etc. When I grab the strat I work with a variety of amp models, Bassman, Vox, Matchless, Marshall, etc. BUT even then, I turn off the speaker cabinet modelling and let my Twin with a JBL D130 be the only speaker sound. Speaker modelling into a real guitar speaker sounds funny to me. The speaker modelling is cool when recording or performing direct with no amp.
When I play acoustic instruments live, like guitar or mandolin, I'll typically plug into a small acoustic di/preamp like the SansAmp or Baggs. That way I can eq the honk out of the pickups. On quieter gigs, I just play into a Shure Beta 57. Great mic for preventing feedback.
At home for recording acoustic instruments, I typically use either an API or Neve mic preamp and a Neumann KM84 and/or an AKG 451. If I need Eq or tone shaping, I'll do it in the mix. I usually track flat with no EQ. I feel safer tracking flat and minimalist.
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Brad Sarno
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St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2004 9:24 am
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John. Plugging steel direct into a recording setup is usually weird sounding. Steel needs lots of EQ to sound "normal". I've never ever been satisfied with directly recording steel. I will almost always mic an amp. Most all of our favorite classic steel sounds came to us that way.
Direct recording steel can let thru a whole range of nasty and unnecessary overtones. Steel also has an inherent midrange honk that almost every steel amp will help scoop out of the way a bit. A guitar amp, by its own lo-fi nature will also filter out the crap and enhance the rich midrange of the steel. I like the sound of small tube amps for recording steel. Fender Deluxes sound real sweet.
Electric guitars including steels were designed and engineered to mate with an amp. A guitar pickup wasn't meant to go direct. It seems like any direct steel tone I've heard also had some devices in the chain that helped emulate speakers and amps.
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