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Topic: How many reverb springs is best? |
Sonny Miller
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Lino Lakes, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2004 1:28 pm |
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| Got a Fender Vibrasonic amp and i am replacing the Reverb spring as it went out. Some one selling them says a 6 spring is the best for pedal steel? Does any one have info on this? It came with a 2 spring reverb. |
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Wiz Feinberg
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Mid-Michigan, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2004 2:21 pm
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I use a 3 spring Accutronics reverb unit, in the various Peavey amps I have owned. They have longer decay time and much smoother response than the 2 spring units. Your main concern will be to try to closely match the input and output impedance of the spring coils to your reverb circuitry. Perhaps an email to Fender will give an answer. You can buy Accutronics reverb tanks brand new, online, from http://www.tubesandmore.com/ for around $20 each, or so.
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Bob "Wiz" Feinberg
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1983 Rosewood Emmons D10 Push-Pull, with 8 pedals and 9 knee levers, George L's E66 pickups and aluminum necks. Nashville 400 amp with Peavey Mod. Emmons pedalbar mounted and Goodrich LDR volume pedals.
I use and endorse Jagwire Strings and accessories.
Keep Steelin' but don't get caught!
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Kevin Mincke
From:
Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 4 Jul 2004 3:11 pm
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Sonny go with a digital reverb unit, it is cleaner, faster, offers more options.
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2004 3:30 pm
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Sonny,
I wise ole man once said, "Be leary of ANY thing a seller EVER says". If you were pleased with the reverb that was in there, replace it with same.
If you are seeking something different (including better) then of course try out what the other posters said,
In any case, may Jesus bless you in your quests,
carl |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Jul 2004 4:06 pm
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My opinion is that unless you're using all the reverb you've got (with the reverb knob set to 10), you don't need more.
However, here's a quick primer on tanks.
There's 6 spring units, 4 spring units, 3 spring units, and 2 spring units. The short tanks (9") contain 2 or 3 springs, and the long tanks contain 4 or 6 springs. In the long tanks (17"), the springs are counter-wound, and connected in the middle, like this...
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or this...
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(The short tanks just have single springs mounted beside each other.)
The short tanks are cheaper and less prone to "clashing", but don't have the full, lush sound of the longer tanks. The long tanks come in short, medium, and long delay versions, but most Mfrs. use the medium delay. The 6-spring units offer still a little fuller sound, and the most delay, that's why they're popular for steel. (Note: When using a long "long delay" tank, the tank must be isolated from the speaker pretty well to prevent "ringing".)
Try to match the input and output impedances of the new tank with the old one for the best results. |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2004 4:30 am
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Sonny, I think you should replace with the original reverb to restore the amp to its original condition(for resale purposes only).
However, I never use the spring reverb in my amp. I use electronic delays which have spoiled me. They win,hands down,in my book. They sound more like natural echo in large rooms and have the advantage of adjustable delay times and decay times.
As Carl said, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,but I suggest giving some of the good effects units a test drive. At present, I am using a Lexicon 110 which is very clean,quiet and affordable.
Good luck. JD
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Sonny Miller
From:
Lino Lakes, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2004 6:06 am
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| Thanks for the information everybody,but in the end i went to the accutronics site and got the best one they use for Pedals Steels which was 29.95 plus 10.00 shipping. Used in the Peavys and Fender Twins for years. Thanks |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jul 2004 11:27 am
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Well! Good Luck anyway!
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Fender ’49–’50 T–8 Custom
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Mark Herrick
From:
Bakersfield, CA
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Posted 5 Jul 2004 3:51 pm
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I have a Fender "Custom" Vibrasonic (the one made in the '90's) and I tried a six spring tank in place of the original four spring tank and thought it didn't sound much different; in fact maybe a little "muddier" or not as crisp as the four spring tank. I went back to the four spring.
The diagram above illustrates a confusing aspect of these tanks. Even though the long tanks "look" like they have two or three springs they are actually four and six springs coupled, as noted.
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