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Topic: Emmons 108N Humbuckers |
David Mullis
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 12:47 pm |
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I've been thinking about trying a set of these and I've heard they're pretty close to the single coils. Anybody out there using these?
Thanks
David
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Dave Robbins
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Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 1:28 pm
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If you play an Emmons guitar, "nothing" will sound better than the 108 (with exception to the original single coil), especially if you play a "LeGrande!" Lot's of power and great tone, as well as "NOISELESS!" They're made by Emmons for an Emmons. It can't get any better than that. Period!
Can't speak for other brands of steels, but from my own experience and "lots" of pickup swapping", the 108 is the pickup that has worked out to be the best in an Emmons if you're looking for power, great tone, and "NO HUM!" Especially in a LeGrande.
Dave
Emmons 8/8 LeGrande III, w/108 humbuckers |
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David Mullis
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Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 1:40 pm
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Thanks for the info Dave. I play a 71 Emmons. I wonder if the older guitars have the holes already tapped for the humbuckers? It looks like to me, that since the screws go through the coils on the 108's, that you would have to have another set of holes tapped in the mounting plate to make this work. Am I right?
Thanks
David
[This message was edited by David Mullis on 12 January 2004 at 01:43 PM.] |
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Jerry Roller
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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 5:22 pm
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I have a LeGrande II mica D10 with the 108N's and it sounds great. I recorded with it last week and fell in love with it all over again. A great sounding guitar. It holds its own very well with any of my push pull guitars!
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stingray
From:
maplewood ohio
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 5:32 pm
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Hi There
You will want to make sure that you get the 108N..they have 3 differant ones... M,N,B..
I think that the 108N has a very sweet nat. sound..not brittle sounding...very smooth!
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Gary L.Converse
(teach a kid how to play steel) KEEP PICKING!
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 5:35 pm
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| Thanks guys, the 108N's are what I'm getting. Looks like I may have to get new mounting plates as well. Either that or try to tap the ones I have.... |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 8:25 pm
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David,
be sure you get the pickup mounting plates and screws. While you might be able to use your old plates, it is much easier to get the new ones that are already pre-drilled to fit the 108's. They use 4 tiny little screws that go down through the middle of each side of the pickup.
When you order your pickups, tell Ronnie what you are going to mount them in. He'll give you a little instruction into putting them in. It's real simple. And be sure to tell them I said "Hello!"
Let me know what you think when you get them in.
Dave
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 8:33 pm
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Oh yeah, one more thing. The pickups are designated as 106B, 108N, and 110M. The 106"B" stands for "bright" (hense the letter "B"), while the 108"N" stands for "normal" ("N"), and the 110 "M" stands for "mellow" ("M").
The 108N is the pickup most people prefer. It is wound in the 20-22.5K range, which will sound closest to the 18-19K stock single coil Emmons pickup. Depending on the range of you current pickup, it may sound slightly heavier if your stock Emmons single coil would happen to be on the light side. However, the 108N is still the best range, as opposed to the 106 or 110 humbuckers. If you were to order a new LeGrande with a humbucker pickup, the 108N would be the pickup they would install as their "standard" humbucker.
As long as you tell them you want the "108 humbucker" you'll be alright.
Dave
[This message was edited by Dave Robbins on 12 January 2004 at 08:42 PM.] |
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 12 Jan 2004 8:34 pm
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Thanks Dave,
The ones I'll be getting are used, but from what I understand the screws are comming with them. I'll give Ron a call this week and order some plates. Thanks again for all the info!
Take Care
David
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Bill Erb
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Posted 13 Jan 2004 2:24 pm
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I don't think you can go wrong with the 108N. The 108N is the best I have tried.
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 14 Jan 2004 8:28 pm
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Howdy Bob,
I tried a 710 in the E9 neck of the 82 push pull that I had and I didn't like it at all. Actually the only guitar I've owned that I liked the 710 in was an LDG. While my 71 was being restored, I borrowed a friends Legrande II and it had 710's in it. I didn't like it at all playing it at home, but, it sounded great when I played gigs. If I don't like the 108's I'll probably just put the single coils back in and live with the hum.  |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jan 2004 8:54 pm
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Bob'
I have heard the 710's in a couple of different LeGrandes and they weren't to my liking for the sound I prefer.
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 14 Jan 2004 10:36 pm
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Did you guys listen to that mp3? Just curious to hear your take on the tone of those 710's?
I love the SC stock pu's on my '78 D-10. I never hear any hum because of the outstanding noise gate in the Roland GP-100.
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 15 Jan 2004 12:19 am
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Nice track.Good tone for sure.But not the tone I associate with single coils.
Now to drift back towards the topic.I have 108 N's on one of my LeGrandes and like them a lot................bb |
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John Macy
From:
Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 15 Jan 2004 12:05 pm
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| When I put the 108N's on my push pull, I did not even have to change one setting on my amps, it was that close (exceept no more hum). |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 15 Jan 2004 12:28 pm
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Again, one of the reasons for using the 108N is not having to need the use of something like a noise gate. 
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 15 Jan 2004 1:52 pm
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Hey Dave! I got the plates ordered today. Ron said howdy right back at ya! Hopefully the pickups will be here soon. I can't wait to try them. I agree on the noise gate thing too. Sometimes I just like running straight to the amp, no extras just pure steel and a little reverb from the amp itself
By the way Dave, what's the recomended height on these pickups?
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 15 Jan 2004 3:16 pm
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Hey Dave..make sure you get Black Pickups..they sound better..  !!
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ok..this was Stephen Gambrells quote..I stole it..[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 15 January 2004 at 04:11 PM.] |
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Bob Hempker
From:
Goodlettsville, TN.
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Posted 16 Jan 2004 5:36 pm
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I totally agree with what Dave R. said. I have 2 LeGrande III's, and I have those PU's on both of them. I had no trouble transferring to a '78 p/p with single coils to these guitars with the 108N's. That's just my opinion.
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 16 Jan 2004 6:15 pm
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Hey Y'all! The pickups arrived today, now I'm just waiting on the mounting plates. Any recomendations on pickup height??
Thanks
David
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 16 Jan 2004 11:42 pm
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David,
there are variables in setting pickup heights. In my LeGrande III the heights are pre-determined at the factory and are not adjustible, however, from my experimenting, that height is really optimized already. But, on another guitar with adjustible heights, you would probably want these as close as you can get them with out bumping the strings when you play, which can really be determined by your "attack". My 108's are set at just slightly over a quarter's thickness (something like a quarter and a half). The C6 neck is another game altogether because of the string gauges. Get them close but with out bumping the strings when you're playing. Then try to fine tune them with your "ear." Any doubts? GIVE RONNIE A CALL. He tell how they do it there at the factory.
I'm anxious to hear your results.
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 17 Jan 2004 6:14 am
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Thanks Dave! I'm anxious to hear them too! The plates should arrive today since I'm not that far from Emmons (about 2.5 - 3 hours) Thanks for all of the info!
Take Care
David
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Charlie Moore
From:
Deville, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2004 10:04 am
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| Well David,did ya hold a gun to buster's head to get them 108's,he told me you got them,they really sounded great in my p/p i just wanted to put the original pick up's back in my p/p,i needed a little HUM in my amp nowhatimean, ha..cya.. Charlie....... |
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David Mullis
From:
Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 17 Jan 2004 8:04 pm
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Hey Charlie, naw, I didn't have to get the ole .45 out. Buster sent me an email and surprised me earlier this week when he said he had decided not to use the pickups. He's a good dude! The plates showed up today. I'll probably put them in tomorow. By the way Charlie, Your pedal will go out Monday!
Take Care
David
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