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Topic: Signal chain position for delay/reverb |
Nicholas Dedring
From: Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 8:43 am
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Just wondering where in the chain a delay box should go, and (if you add an external one) where should reverb go? I would think delay after the volume pedal (or in the first Effects Loop)? Reverb at the very end?
I haven't really monkeyed around with any delay stuff, but it seems like it's part of everyone's package, at least somewhere in the mix, on some tunes.
Final thought: why did boss get rid of the pedals that combined reverb and delay? I don't particularly want to drop $300 on getting both things in the signal... are the new ones that much better than the old RV-3??? Also, is there anything that is decent that is a better bang for the buck than the DD-3?? Thanks for your input, all. |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 10:14 am
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I've seen people refer to liking to be able to cut the reverb tail with their volume pedal at will and hence they put it in front of the pedal. I find that to be jarringly unnatural feeling/sounding to me and I'll only run the reverb after the pedal. I've never much cared where the delay goes. I use so little that it doesn't seem to matter much.
I forget what they've done with the RV-5 in the way of upgrades but it is a more powerful unit, feature-wise, than the RV-3. Except that they stripped it of its most desirable feature---the rev/del combo. Even though the RV-3 has some shortcomings, its combination makes it the most versatile little pedal out there. Maybe their thinking was 'why sell them one single pedal that's both a breath mint and a candy mint when we can sell them two separate pedals---one that's less filling, the other that tastes great!' 'Super idea BJ! We'll call them the Bend Over and the Spread'em!' |
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Ron Randall
From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 7:13 pm
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I like the efx after the volume pedal and before the preamp/power amp.
For $300 you might consider a Lexicon or a TC Electronics unit. Many beautiful reverbs, delays and combinations. 1 rack space, put it where you can select the effect you want and tap in the tempo. Finger tip control. My feet are busy enough!.
works for me.
hope this helped.
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 7:17 pm
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I put everything after the volume pedal (which gives a more consistent tone with efx on vs. efx off, but there really is no "right" way. |
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JB Arnold
From: Longmont,Co,USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Jul 2003 8:07 pm
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Time devices-reverb and delay-should be last. Usually delay after everything, and then reverb. I can't think of any reason you'd want anything before the volume pedal, except maybe a Bosstone. Chorus would go in place of delay if you are using one-but a good American would never use both at once, as chorus is essentially a preset delay with a short fuse and variable sweep.
JB
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Wiz Feinberg
From: Mid-Michigan, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2003 3:08 pm
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Here is my effects chain:
Guitar to Buffer/Compressor/Fuzztone
Buffer/Compressor/Fuzz to MXR Phase 100
Phase 100 to MXR Envelope Filter (touch wah)
Envelope filter to volume pedal input
Volume pedal out to Nasville 400 top input
Amp front panel output jack to Boss Delay
Boss delay to Boss Chorus
Boss Chorus to Boss Tremolo
Boss Tremolo back to Amp effects return jack
Back of amp preamp OUT to Boss RV5 input
Boss RV5 output to back of amp preamp IN
As complicated as this sounds it produces the lowest noise, no hum, and no distortion.
BTW: I use and recommend LineOne power adapters instead of Boss. They put out 800ma of hum-free 9V power, and for about $10 each I bought two daisy chain power-plug extenders, which feed the Boss effect pedals. One adapter feeds all the effects pedals at the guitar and one feeds the reverb unit that sits on top of my amp.
PS: Do yourselves a favor and buy a TripLite Isobar power strip and maybe a Triplite voltage regulator. The strip will protect your power adapters and amp and fans etc from getting blown up if the power voltage rises above 140, while the regulator keeps a steady output voltage in clubs that suffer from constant fluctuations.
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Bob "Wiz" Feinberg
AIM Screenname: Wizcrafts
Sho~Bud Super~Pro with 10 and 10, L710s and aluminum fingers from Bobbe Seymour. Nashville 400 amp.
Keep Steelin' but don't get caught![This message was edited by Wiz Feinberg on 26 July 2003 at 04:16 PM.] |
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