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Topic: Use a seperate amp or speaker for R/R effect? |
Bill C. Buntin
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Posted 25 Jan 2001 4:47 am |
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| I used to use a Pro-fexII for R/R, Blues etc. I didn't like the way it sounded. I recently demoed a tube amp with a 12" speaker and thought it might be cool just to take 2 rigs on the job and like leave my Peavey Session rig set for the clean country stuff and get a tube amp rig for the "dirty" distortion and overdrive stuff. Or split the stereo on my Evans rack equipment and dedicate one channel for clean and one channel for dirty. What do ya'll think? Anybody doing this? Cause I've often wondered if running overdrive and distortion might be bad for a speaker that 80% of the time you expect to have a clean sound going through. |
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Rich Paton
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Santa Maria, CA.,
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Posted 26 Jan 2001 6:27 am
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I've used that sort of setup for electric guitar with good results. I ran an old but very powerful boatanchor Mozrite tube amp into an open-back cabinet with a JBL D-130 for clean, and a Fender Deluxe Reverb into a pair of JBL E110's for the effects. The amps' inputs from the guitar were "Y"ed, with an Ernie Ball volume pedal inline with the signal to the Deluxe. This way I could mix in real-time the effects "channel" sound into the clean sound.
This works very well in the studio, because a physical seperation of six or more feet between the amps can create a huge sound compared to just mixing the clean and effects
sounds in one amp.
Since most bars' "stages" around here at the time were often glorified 4' X 8' sheets of plywood or slightly larger, setting up a bunch of gear was a hassle and I've reduced the hardware I use to a minimum.
Tone-wise though, you should try it if you have the space. The possibilities are vast.
I wouldn't worry much about speaker damage unless you're talking huge power levels. |
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2001 9:35 am
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| leave my Peavey Session rig set for the clean country stuff and get a tube amp rig for the "dirty" distortion and overdrive stuff... |
BCB - My rack consists of a Tubeworks 9002 preamp with 2 channels: a clean (and I mean CLEAN, and a drive channel that is stackable over the clean channel. You can get as down and dirty as you want. Coupled with a VHT 2/90/2 power amp, a Lexicon MPX-1 effects unit, and a couple of JBL-E130s, I am in hog heaven.
It ain't light, but having the preamp that can also do the overdrive stuff would beat carrying 2 systems around.
SF |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 26 Jan 2001 10:27 am
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Bill, like a lot of these guys, I never liked the guitar thru the same amp as the steel. I don't play a lot of guitar, but if I do, I have the 2 channel Blue Tube II in the Mosvalve rig to switch from one to the other. Then you don't have to compromise. I sometimes use a 1203 cab and a 1501 cab combination also. The RT921 reverb unit also has controls for ea. separate stereo side and is great for mixing spkr. sizes. I like having another channel for r/r steel or overdriven or just different tones, also handy for six string or cat-can.
It is a lot to carry at times, but I think it's really worth the extra effort.
[This message was edited by Jerry Overstreet on 28 January 2001 at 10:28 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2001 9:48 pm
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| Overdrive and distortion do not hurt a speaker's ability to sound clean. |
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2001 11:20 am
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Bill, that's the setup I use a lot. A clean amp (in my case an old Showman) plus a small dirty head (the THD Univalve).
I have a couple of stereo cabinets, so I don't even bring two cabs usually.
This is a great sound, especially the mixture of the two amps.
In terms of the speaker, it's not going to hurt a speaker like a JBL or Black Widow to play rock and roll through it, but I personally like other types of speakers (e.g. Celestions) for this kind of sound.
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