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Ken Fox


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 5:45 am    
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Gerald Ross


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 6:36 am    
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Excellent! Thanks!


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Roger Kelly

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 6:42 am    
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Here is another good one.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBA-PdrCAEc&mode=related&search=
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 6:51 am    
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Ken. That was an incredible video!! thanks

Anyone know exactly how Thumbs tuned his guitar? I have heard that he tuned to an Eb chord.

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Howard Kalish


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 9:49 am    
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Wow! that's fantastic. I'd heard the Billy Wimberly had a hot band but that's amazing.

Anyone know who the fiddle players are or the piano or other guys.

Curly sure was a skinny guy back then.

That's Red Foley hosting of course.

Thanks for posting that Ken.
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Russ Wever

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 10:38 am    
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Howard -

One of the fiddlers is Jimmy Belkins -
Isn't this some of the same band as Blackie Crawfords Western Cherokees, that Ray Price later hired on?

This video is one of several that played at Curlys funeral.

~Russ
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Howard Kalish


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 11:07 am    
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Russ - Yep, now that you mention it, the fiddle player with glasses is Jimmy Belkin.

I think you're right about Blackie Crawford's band working for Ray Price, but they also worked for Lefty Frizzell.

Here's an interesting excerpt from Pee Wee Whitewing's excellent website at http://www.heartoftexasband.com/peeweebio.html

I finished School in May of 1951 at the age of 17 and called Abe who got me the job with Blackie Crawford and the Western Cherokees backing up Lefty Frizzell, Ray Price, Johnny Recter, Danny Brown and others. This was a very solid well rehearsed group and was kicks to play with. I took the place of Harold (Curly) Chalker who was the one of the best players of that time and had took a job with Hank Thompson. By the way it was Bobby Black that took my place with Shorty Joe and also Blackie Crawfords band backing up Frizzell et al.
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 2:25 pm    
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Very good, Bro. Russ, identifying Jimmy Belkens. The other fiddler is Johnny Manson, another of the Cherokees. I played with him some in Dallas in the mid-70's.

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Richard Sevigny


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Salmon Arm, BC, Canada
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 3:34 pm    
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Cool stuff. Love the guitar player's overhand technique (with capo, no less)
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2006 5:51 pm    
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Pretty dang cool...
But I still think the definitive version of Little Liza Jane goes to Wichita with Lester Moran and the Cadillac Cowboys....

[This message was edited by Skip Edwards on 22 December 2006 at 05:52 PM.]

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Jay Fagerlie


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 9:08 am    
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Ken,
What is the youTube name of this clip?
Thanks
Jay
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 9:12 am    
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I think this is the second clip of Thumbs I've seen. It messes with my head to watch him--it is as odd looking to me as watching someone play with his toes. Very cool. Thanks for posting this.
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Ken Fox


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 9:45 am    
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Name is the same as the topic above
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Tracy Sheehan

 

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Fort Worth, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 11:52 am    
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Thumbs tuned in a straight E flat.
Like an open E but down to E Flat.

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Earnest Bovine


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Los Angeles CA USA
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 12:13 pm    
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But he nearly always used a capo and it was usually on the 1st fret, so the tuning was
E
B
G#
E
B
E
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 1:44 pm    
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Great - especially that drum solo by Johnathan Winters ....
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 6:18 pm    
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 6:40 pm    
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In Los Angeles in the early 1980's he usually used a Peavey guitar.
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2006 7:12 pm    
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When you sent me to see him with the Shutouts in '82, he was playing a blond '70s Telecaster.
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Tom Olson

 

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Spokane, WA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2006 2:04 pm    
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Great - especially that drum solo by Johnathan Winters ....


That's not Jonathan Winters -- it's the bus driver
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David Coplin


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Eugene, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2006 4:06 pm    
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Sorry for the link that wasn't. That address is the one that came with the clip but I must have mistyped something. Thanks ken for getting the correct link.
Dave
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David Doggett


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Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2006 10:03 pm    
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It's interesting that Thumbs used a straight E or Eb tuning. In essence he was playing an open E lap steel, only with his fingers and frets instead of with a bar. He is basically fingering the hammer-ons and pull-offs. Somehow that makes it a little less mind boggling. But the skill and execution is still amazing.
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