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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 4:05 pm |
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I've recorded a little marimba improvisation that experiments with whole tone scales.
It's double tracked - I played one part then played another over it.
There are two whole tone scales, and I switch between them at several places in the recording. The scales are:
C D E F# G# A#
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C# D# F G A B
Sort of a cool sound, very 20th century I think.
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chas smith R.I.P.
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 5:38 pm
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| You've noticed that it never resolves, because whole tone scales are, essentially, dominant chords. |
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 6:31 pm
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That's not country. 
Is that some of that commie music? 
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 6:59 pm
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| I think the most interesting part is how you got it to start playing the music file as soon as you access the page. We have never had that functionality here on the Forum, have we? I think youre breaking new ground here, b0b. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 3:11 am
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well now that Jim has come to the table first with b0b's music starting thing..
does this mean that b0b , from this point on, will have music attached to every one of his thread posts ? and MAKE us listen to his experiments in an attempt to control our minds ?
I mean sure, it starts with whole tone scales ( pretty cool by the way ) but where does it go from here ? Will he be placing subliminal messages in his music which we all will not be able to avoid ?
Is b0b the real Dr. Feelgood ?
God, I hope he doesn't send a message in the music making me go out an buy one of those half electric cars 
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Pat Kelly
From:
Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 3:34 am
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| Clear case of discrimination here. Mine didn't start; I had to click on play! |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 7:10 am
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Sounds like Ravel and Debussey on acid, both playing different songs at the same time. Cool!  |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 7:23 am
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Great job b0b!
Tony, ya gotta play it backwards at half speed to get the "hidden" message. It says to "buy baked beans...". |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 7:35 am
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It doesn't start automatically on either of my machines. I should change it to a link if it does that. It's really annoying to have music when you didn't ask for it.
I have it set to autoplay="false". Jim, what browser are you using?
As for it being unresolved, I don't hear it that way, maybe because there are no major or minor chords anywhere in the piece to set a traditional key. Wholetone scale do work well over 7th chords (all of those tri-tones!), but lacking that structure I think that the music stands in its own space.
Maybe I'll turn this into something more formal. There are 3 or 4 motifs that could almost be construed as a composition.
It's really fun to play on marimba, and easy.
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 8:09 am
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It starts automatically for me on Mozilla Firefox. I now see that it does NOT start automatically on IE or AOL.
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 8:50 am
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I use Firefox and it doesn't start automatically here.
First I see the blue circle Quick Time logo, then when it has loaded, that changes to black play/pause, etc controls.
BTW in Firefox, I can never listen to anything in Quick Time because the audio just stutters. I wish I could figure out how to tell Firefox to not use Quick Time at all. |
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 8:53 am
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It does not start automatically for me either, but it's the first time I remember seeing a player imbedded in a post. Pretty cool (I'm too old to say "cool"). Sounds like a fun thing to play.
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 10:02 am
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| It works with QuickTime in Firefox on this machine, and in Windows Media Player in IE6. Doesn't autostart. |
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John Poston
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 10:41 am
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| I think you're onto something there. Sounds great. |
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chas smith R.I.P.
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 10:42 am
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| Maybe I'll turn this into something more formal. |
Yes, don't stop now. |
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John McGann
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Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 11:38 am
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Reminds me of bluegrass banjo
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Michael Barone
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Downingtown, Pennsylvania
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 5:17 pm
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I found it pleasing to the ear. Our ears are so used to following the rules. Take the rules away by opening up space, and it continually resolves just fine if you use your imagination.
I agree with Jim about synchronizing the 2 tracks, unless it was intentional. Then maybe add a 3rd track on steel using dim5th, aug5th chords & intervals. Or do a bass line on steel. A bass line may establish a desired implied chord at any given time.
Mike
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 13 Mar 2006 7:41 pm
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It is odd; On Mozilla-Firefox, when I access the page the first thing I see in b0bs posting is a box with the AOL logo in it! There is no mp3 player with start, stop, etc. buttons on it, like I see with AOL browser or IE. Just the AOL logo in a black box (why the AOL logo when Im on Firefox anyway?) and then it plays automatically. Weird.
Also, when typing this, the browser is refusing to allow me to use any apostrophes. If I try to use one, it drops me down into a search box at the bottom of the screen. This has never happened to me on the Forum before; only in this thread. Also happens with forward slashes but not backward ones; see: \\\. Weird.
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 7:57 am
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Jim Phelps - this isn't a serious recording at all. I improvised a stereo track, then I immediately improvised another one on top of it. It was actually an equipment test (cheap Behringer condenser mics through a Line6 TonePort into Garageband on a Powerbook G4, stored to a USB keyring storage device), but I thought that the result was musically interesting enough to share with the group here.
It doesn't even have a name. Very spur-of-the-moment.
Jim Cohen - are you using a Mac? What OS?
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 8:36 am
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| No, I use a PC. Windows 2000. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 9:06 am
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This is interesting, I have 2 computers, both Mac G4's, so my wife and i can go on line at the same time. One is running on PS 10, henothe ron 9.2.
The thing plays fine on the pne running on OS 10, but not on the one running 9.2.
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 11:34 am
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| Jim Phelps - this isn't a serious recording at all. |
Oh, excuse me then - I should have realized that playing in time is reserved for the serious recordings. |
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Adrienne Clasky
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 3:55 pm
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That was fantastic! Hubby loved it, too.
Have you ever improvised off the whole tone scale on the pedal steel? [This message was edited by Adrienne Clasky on 15 March 2006 at 09:37 AM.] |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 14 Mar 2006 6:11 pm
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| Have you ever improved off the whole tone scale on the pedal steel? |
Curly Chalker did.
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