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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 8:52 am
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Appropro to recent discussions on this, I noticed these interesting comments by Marilyn vos Savant, "highest IQ" guru, in her Parade magazine column when she was asked why some entertainers play so loud.
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They're trying to generate excitement, and a high level of decibels accomplishes that goal. Subjected to such intense sound, listeners' bodies produce adrenaline, noradrenaline and more. These substances make the heart pound and give an impression of increased muscle strength. Not surprisingly, some people become psychologically addicted to this hormone rush, which is implicated in thrill-seeking behavior. What a way to get - and keep - fans. |
In other words, it makes the musicians and the audience high together, and they become "addicted" to it. Old foggies apparently become immune, maybe because they can't hear well enough to get the high. Incidentally, chimps in the wild have been observed to occassionally engage in a group session of screaming, running around, jumping up and down, and thrashing around with tree branches. So maybe this group high thing goes back a long way. It's in our jeans...unh...genes. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 9:15 am
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Incidentally, chimps in the wild have been observed to occassionally engage in a group session of screaming, running around, jumping up and down, and thrashing around with tree branches. |
Which pretty much fills the criterias for getting a record deal these days.......
Steinar
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 10:22 am
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listeners' bodies produce adrenaline, noradrenaline and more. These substances make the heart pound and give an impression of increased muscle strength. |
I found out that's how them snowboarders accomplish what they do. They have Ipods & MP3 players in their coats and crank up some really heavy stuff during their run.
Learned this from my 15 yr old snowboarding daughter.
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Incidentally, chimps in the wild have been observed to occassionally engage in a group session of screaming, running around, jumping up and down, and thrashing around with tree branches. |
Sounds like a typical day at work...[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 10 March 2006 at 10:24 AM.] |
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Rick Collins
From: Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 10:23 am
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It works just like newly acquired bits of political news. It can create the mob mentality in some "emotionally unintelligent" people. |
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Gene Jones
From: Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 10:40 am
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* [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 12 March 2006 at 04:25 AM.] |
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John Ummel
From: Arlington, WA.
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 11:22 am
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I can't believe the total disrespect for tradition. Loud loud music indeed.
In the old days we understood that to get the truly magical effect you need (in addition to loud loud music) DIM LIGHTS AND THICK SMOKE!! |
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 10 Mar 2006 11:59 am
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Exactly, John. And I'm thinking the original dim lights and thick smoke were under the stars, with the drums around the smoking campfire. |
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James Cann
From: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 3:48 pm
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. . . it (made) the musicians and the audience high together, and . . . "addicted" to it. Old foggies apparently become immune, maybe because they can't hear well enough to get the high. |
Oh, yes it did indeed, and wasn't it great, and ain't we immune now, especially when we consider what wearing the hearing aids of way back then would be like.
Ain't we just so well off![This message was edited by James Cann on 11 March 2006 at 03:49 PM.] [This message was edited by James Cann on 11 March 2006 at 03:50 PM.] [This message was edited by James Cann on 11 March 2006 at 08:17 PM.] |
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Dan Sawyer
From: Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2006 11:44 pm
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"it makes the musicians and the audience high together"
I don't see where she said this… only that it affected the listeners. Personally, i can't stand it when the music gets painfully loud. As musicians, we should be protecting our hearing. (Spoken as a fogey.) |
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Michael Johnstone
From: Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 10:05 am
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Tommy Collins said it best:
"All of the monkeys ain't in the zoo - some are makin' records for us to listen to...."
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Colm Chomicky
From: Kansas, (Prairie Village)
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 11:03 am
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Whatever Gene Jones said on the subject above, it must have been good. I'm always to too late and only catch the edited version. |
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Charlie McDonald
From: out of the blue
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 2:56 pm
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I'll bet Gene didn't say "Loud music is great." |
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Gene Jones
From: Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 12 Mar 2006 3:34 pm
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You guys are too kind. I have certainly been guilty many times of trying to cover a deficit in skill or imagination by "turning up the volume knob another notch of two".
The true result of that action however, is revealed by listening to the end result during the sober and bright sunlight of the next day!
www.genejones.com
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Dayna Wills
From: Sacramento, CA (deceased)
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Posted 16 Mar 2006 12:04 am
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A friend of mine plays really loud, soloud that some of his older audience members wear ear plugs. One day I was doing this dnace to tracks that he and I had recorded together. This one couple told me later that it didn't have the pizazz that it did when I sang with my friend. I explained to them that even tho they complain about his volume, they noticed that song wasn't as exciting when the volume level was turned down. So, there you have it. There's just no pleasin' some people.
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