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Bill Miller

 

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Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 25 Feb 2006 4:57 am    
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Does anyone sell complete 'real instrument' backup tracks that let you add or mute individual instruments? I'm talking about something like karaoke but with configurable multi-tracking...preferably footswitch controlable. Maybe it's already out there but I'd like to see someone offer a comprehensive library of such tracks that you could select from and purchase to be used with a controller. It would need to be adjustable for tempo, pitch etc.
Our six piece hobby band is going through some changes and I may look at a new project eventually. If so I'd be looking to form a duo ...maybe trio. ( a singer, me back and forth between steel and six string, and possibly a keyboard player) I detest the sound of synthesized instruments however. I've never gotten into automated backup so I'm trying to get an idea of the possibilities.
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Bob Martin


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Post  Posted 25 Feb 2006 9:04 pm    
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Hi Bill, what you are referring to would be pretty expensive to do. First thing you would need is the actuall tracks from sessions then you would have to have some way of playing them back in real time like a laptop with software that will play back multiple tracks of digital audio.

Then you would have to have a midi floor controller that was capable of muting tracks on the fly which would be the easiest piece of the puzzle.

Now in answer to your question as far as I know no one is selling those kind of tracks due to the very large production it would take to play them back at a gig.

Now with that being said I have done exactly that with a single back in the mid 90's. I recorded all of my own tracks here in my studio and then I transferred them to a CD player and played along with them but in that sceneario I couldn't mute tracks on the fly so I made 4 different mixes of my shows and when one of my buddies came by to jam and played steel I would use the CD that did not have the steel on it and so on with other instruments.

It worked out very well and I had a great time doing it but in the end it got old doing a single and singing every song but I did it for about 2 yrs and it's really the only time that I ever made real good money hee hee.

Big Bob
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Rick Garrett

 

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Tyler, Texas
Post  Posted 26 Feb 2006 3:10 am    
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The newer model Tascom CDGT1 MK11 (I think) lets a person remove the guitar music from a cd that you are playing along with. Maybe that'll do what you want if its just for practice.

Rick
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Bill Miller

 

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Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Feb 2006 7:17 am    
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Big Bob: It sounds like you had quite a system going there. I'm not set up for home recording and I can only play the two instruments so I couldn't lay down my own drums and bass. Well maybe bass if I had one.
But what I have in mind is more of an expanded capability karaoke. The guy who sings with us also does a one man show and these days the tracks he's using for backup are really nice. Gone are the chintzy sounding midi instrument sounds. ( you ever hear those midi steel guitar sounds? ...like finger nails on a blackboard to me) So being that someone is putting together these karaoke tracks anyways, why doesn't some enterprise take it a step farther and offer the backup in a format that conserves a basic multitrack (say 4 or 6 tracks maximum). This could be be set up to work with a laptop running Adobe Audition type editing/sequencing software. I'm not up on the hardware but with a plugin someone should be able to couple a simple 6 button foot controller to a laptop to turn individual tracks on or off. I don't see it as being that far removed from what's already being used. There wouldn't be any need for lush 24 or 32 track arrangements. Six tracks would be lots, especially since the software would let you combine tracks if necessary.
So you've already got pro musicians putting together real instrument tracks for karaoke. And all manner of multitrack manipulation is currently available to anyone with a computer. It seems like all that's missing is someone to marry the technology to a comprehensive catalog of song tracks.
Rick: No, what I'm looking for is performance based, but thanks for the info nonetheless.

[This message was edited by Bill Miller on 26 February 2006 at 07:20 AM.]

[This message was edited by Bill Miller on 26 February 2006 at 12:01 PM.]

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