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Dayna Wills

 

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Sacramento, CA (deceased)
Post  Posted 4 Jan 2005 11:45 pm    
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you hear the words "Chick Singer"

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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 12:03 am    
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Pleasant memories.

I guess I've been lucky, in 30 years of playing I can't remember ever having the kind of "vocalist from hell" experiences many musicians report, from any of the "chick singers".

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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 12:19 am    
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The song "Crazy" comes to mind almost immediately...

How many girl singers know Crazy? ANSWER: All of them!

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Andy Greatrix

 

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Edmonton Alberta
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 1:26 am    
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I never felt comfortable calling women chick singers. I have been fortunate working with women singers/musicians over the years who were capable, pulled their own weight and were easy to get along with. In my mind, chicks grow up to lay eggs.

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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 2:15 am    
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We had a Pat Benetar clone, but with out the top 4-5 notes needed.
And alto wishing to be Sopraono and never making mezo.
She was singing back up and 2 lead songs a night.

In the studio I had some beachboys style harmonies to do on an original song.
Just two parts. I told her please sing the part OVER me... the baritone..
I even sang the line to tape a few times,

She tried for awhile, then wanted me to change the key of a fully recorded song... hello... no dear, sorry, too late.

And then finally quit, because she couldn't figure out, with help,
how to sing her notes an octave lower...
So she quit in a huff.
Welcome to wanabe amature hour.

I turned around and sang both parts falsetto in about 15 minutes.
I heard this track a few months back, it still worked,
and was still happy she wasn't on it.

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Hook Moore


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South Charleston,West Virginia
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 3:58 am    
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2 ex-wifes..

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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 4:33 am    
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In my opinion there are "Chick Singer" and Female Vocalists. Here's the difference. A chick singer is the one who'll get off the bandstand to dance with her boyfriend or husband and arrive at the gig just in time to go on stage and leave immediately after the gig. A Female Vocalist does her songs and even if she doesn't play an instrument she stays on stage, sings harmonies with others and helps the overall appearance of the band. When the gig's over she helps roll cords or whatever's needed and pulls her own weight. We have a Female Vocalist who only does maybe 3 or 4 songs per set but she's irreplaceable. This little girl is only 5 ft. tall but probably weighs 200 lbs. so she's not slinky model type but I wouldn't trade her for any other. She has the most engaging smile you ever saw and sings her butt off. When she's not doing a tune she sings any harmony part that's needed, helps with what equipment she can, and during breaks she's the best PR person we could have. In case anyone who knows the Legends band in my area I'm talking about Ms. Stephanie Poole who's really a jewel in my opinion. When I worked the SoCal area I played with a gorgeous girl named JoAnn Rinard who was a great asset to the band in all the same ways. Dayna, do you remember the girl who sang with the band when I was at the Foothill Club named Barbie Mathews? Barbie was also a jewel. I've been lucky over the years and only worked with a couple of "chick singers" and they've usually been very young......JH

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Gene Jones

 

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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 4:58 am    
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I regret that in recent times, "chick singer" has sometimes become a derogatory reference applied to girl singers with dubious talent.

To me, "Chick Singer" brings to mind the era when I first heard the term used by musicians, with song stylists like Peggy Lee, Dakota Staton, Julie London, and Dinah Washington...just to name a few examples.

The original female vocalists belonged to an exclusive group, and the reference "chick singer" when used by musicians was a showing of respect for their talent.

There are many female vocalists of current venues of whom I admire and enjoy listening to their music.....but to me, they are primarily entertainers and not many of them are deserving of the honor of the name, "chick singer".

...of those I have known in recent times who could deservingly and proudly wear the name "chick singer", I would include the originator of this thread....Dayna Wills.


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Herb Steiner


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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 6:23 am    
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What comes to mind for me is a warm early summer afternoon at a Western Swing festival in Texas, and an embarrassing experience with someone who became a very, very close friend of mine.

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D Schubert

 

From:
Columbia, MO, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 7:01 am    
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I would only use "chick singer" in the most negative way...out on the front porch, can't find the key, and doesn't know when to come in anyway.

On the other hand, I work with two ladies that are just like the "boys in the band" when it comes to setup, teardown, promo work, backup harmony, etc. I would never refer to them as chick singers.

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Glenn Suchan

 

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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 7:10 am    
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Dakota Staton! Yes!!! One of my favorite "chick singers". The great thing about her is she's still recording and has gotten better (more bluesy) through the years. Her version of "Cry Me A River" is the quintescential "tough-luck, fella" version.

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Gary Carriger

 

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Victoria, Texas
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 10:42 am    
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Man, Herb...that is a most intriguing posting. But I'm not prying.
Gary
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Smiley Roberts

 

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Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 11:49 am    
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One of my favs of Dakota Staton was,(& still is) "The Late,Late Show". I still have the "45" of it.

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Leslie Ehrlich


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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 1:05 pm    
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A 'singer' is someone who sings but can't PLAY an instrument. When I say PLAY I mean someone who can play solos as well as chords.
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Andy Greatrix

 

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Edmonton Alberta
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 1:13 pm    
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The voice is a fretless instument like a steel. A good, in tune singer with good note choice and time feel is a musician. Ella Fitzgerald could scat as good as any musician with her instrument.

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Dayna Wills

 

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Sacramento, CA (deceased)
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2005 1:50 pm    
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this is a test to check if my screen is refreshed

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Glenn Suchan

 

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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2005 5:37 am    
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Smiley,

I agree. Dakota's "Late Late Show" is a good one. I have the LP "In The Night" (Dakota Staton w/ The George Shearing Quintet) and the follow-up LP titled "Late Late Show". That song appears on both (as an instrumental on "In the Night"). Dakota Staton's style was similar to Nancy Wilson at that time (late 50's). She's more "blue" and less "pop" these days.

A search for Dakota Staton at Amazon.com (under "popular music") will get you to CD's of these two albums and others by her.

Keep on pickin'!
Glenn

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Ron Jones

 

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Lenoir City, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2005 7:37 am    
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Most money I ever made playing music.
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Kenny Drake

 

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Leesburg, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jan 2005 8:59 am    
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I like working with female vocalists from time to time because it provides a chance to play some otherwise restricted material. That is of course unless you work with the "Blues Brothers"

Sometimes it's hard....to be a woman..."

I like the canaries if they're easy to work with, and they can also lend harmony.
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Ken Lang


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Simi Valley, Ca
Post  Posted 7 Jan 2005 6:27 pm    
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I thought "chick singers" died out about the same time Frank Sinatras' calling the girls mouses did.

We always said girl singers.

Now it's gone as far as "The bitch in the band."

I think girl singer is best be she 6 or 60.

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Tom Olson

 

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Spokane, WA
Post  Posted 15 Jan 2005 2:56 pm    
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This little girl is only 5 ft. tall but probably weighs 200 lbs.


Little?
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