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Topic: Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy |
Kevin Hatton
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 6:33 am |
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| Our most requested song. That and Sweet Home Alabama. I don't like the song too much, but people go wild when we play it. We do it pretty much note for note including me playing fiddle. I wanna play some Waylon. I'm getting old. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 10 August 2004 at 07:34 AM.] |
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Tony Palmer
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St Augustine,FL
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 7:42 am
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Well, the video is completely obnoxious but the song is pretty catchy....I'm starting to like it!
Hasn't one of the Big and Rich team written a more traditional country hit?
Or to phrase it differently, is this a freakish deviation from what they normally sing/write or is this a team created to just to promote country-rap so as to reach a new audience? |
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Gene Jones
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Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 8:25 am
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| In retrospect, my comment may not be entirely relevant to the subject so I am removing it! [This message was edited by Gene Jones on 10 August 2004 at 11:17 AM.] |
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Jim Cohen
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Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 10:33 am
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| In retrospect, my comment may not be entirely relevant to the subject so I am removing it! |
Gene, with an attitude like that, you'd be welcome to post in my threads anytime!  |
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erik
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 1:56 pm
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| Just curious, are these the same guys trying to break through a few years ago who were challenged to a fist fight by some Country artists? |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 5:32 pm
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| This has got to be by far the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on CMT..... |
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Garry Vanderlinde
From:
CA
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 6:04 pm
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Another new low in Country Music.  |
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 6:10 pm
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| Just wait... something worse is on the way! |
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Bill cole
From:
Cheektowaga, New York, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2004 7:39 pm
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| No Ray there is a band around buffalo That plays this shit they call country then to hear one of the band say he would like to play Waylon Now thats a joke all you need to is get the B--- to do it and then learn how [This message was edited by Bill cole on 10 August 2004 at 08:40 PM.] |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 10:32 am
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| Bill Cole, your comment is noted. We DO play Waylon, Merle, and Cash. I'm sorry you're so bitter. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 11 August 2004 at 11:33 AM.] |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 11:35 am
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The "innuendo" of the tune is what strikes me as pushing the envelope.
Poor Copernicus met his fate when he stood up for his beliefs about the sun and the universe. Bein' a Country purist these days can be lonely. The record companies will always take the route to the fastest return. That was the one truth I took away from Sunday's CMT history lesson (they were referring to the Dixie Chicks and the fast $ the record companies could make getting the "Chick's" music produced ASAP. Seems that record companies must have inordinately high overhead levels).
I can't criticize anyone's music too much for the reason that, when I was 13 yrs old, and the "Doors" "Light My Fire" was in Top 40, us kids liked the tune. It drove my dad and my uncles crazy. They said "how can you stand that tune, it's THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER".
To each his own. |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 12:30 pm
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| Its a new generation Ray. We are playing to 23-25 year olds. Hardly any of them appreciate real tradional country music. Thats just the way of the new younger generation. If it was up to me we'd be playing Buck Owens and George Jones most of the night. We only do Save A Horse because we were inundated with requests for it. Like I said the crowd goes absolutely wild for it. For the next segment of songs that we learn I'm going to use my choice for a more steel guitar traditional song choice. Its the best that I can do to try and balance things out. |
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Bill cole
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Cheektowaga, New York, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 2:57 pm
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| Ray I'm not knocking anyones music or choice there of. [This message was edited by Bill cole on 11 August 2004 at 04:01 PM.] |
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Bill cole
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Cheektowaga, New York, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 3:59 pm
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| Kevin I would like to say I am sorry maybe I was in a bad mood but I should have never said anything and after I read it I knew I was all wrong. but I get real upset when the music is called country and don't come within a hundred miles of being such. I have never heard your band so I can't talk about it. I will hear it some time soon but I still will not commet one way or the other. Again I am sorry and it will not happen again |
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Toby Rider
From:
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 4:07 pm
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Yes, the definition of "country" music has gotten pretty wide nowadays, hasn't it?  |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 5:37 pm
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| Bill, its okay buddy. I know that you truly love real country music. So do I, and I know that you love the steel guitar. Unfortunately I missed the golden era. The guys I play with are twenty years younger, and the audience is younger than that. So we have to do whats popular today. Which is at the very least country rock, and sometimes pure rock. I was talkng to a Nashville touring steel player two weeks ago about this. Its turned into a rock show. Believe me I'm doing everything that I can in our band to keep it country. Its not easy. |
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 6:18 pm
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Kevin, next time I get to sit down to yer ZB it's gonna be for more than 2 minutes Ya gots to make yer hay where the sun is shining and right now it's with the 20 yr old set with all that discretionary spendable $$$$. I fully understand and agree.
Bill, I know where your heart's at too. Looking forward to you showing me how to use that 5th string lower sometime in the foreseable future.
Warmest regards to ya both.
[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 11 August 2004 at 07:23 PM.] |
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Jon Moody
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 6:52 pm
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| One thing about music and records that has been proven time and again is that in many cases the best and eventualy the most poular songs that an artist has, were not ever entended to be released as singles. This can be seen from Hank Williams to Merle Haggard to everyones favorite artist to bash, Garth Brooks. The point being is that to say these artists are "talentless", "they are not country" or that "they are just rock posing as county" to me is not fair based only on what is on CMT or Main stream Radio. The fact is I listened to the entire Big and Rich CD and found that not all but some of the songs were not only country but also pretty darn good songs, and there harmony while different, does give there sound an interesting twist. On the other hand Tracy Lawerance, an artist who in the past has always and a good country sound, released a new single severel months ago called "paint me a bermingham" it was a great song, so I got the CD and it over all it was not good at all so you never can tell what will get based on what comes out of the TV or Radio. So give em a chance, most artists have web sites and you can hear some of the other stuff from there CD, you might be surprised. I was.. |
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Les Pierce
From:
Shreveport, LA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 7:25 pm
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What is so offensive about this song, is that it is a cheap shot to an easy way to get attention.
Why, whether as audience, or player, do we feel comfortable buying/selling inuendo, when we could just hire a naked girl to stand on the stage, and the audience would go crazy all the time?
I just remembered why I don't play the bars, anymore.
Les
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erik
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 7:29 pm
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Can someone answer my question? Or email the answer.
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Bill cole
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Cheektowaga, New York, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 7:59 pm
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| Erik I believe the same one's your talking about are the same one's who have distroyed the meaning of country music. And Kevin if you ever need eany help with the steel guitar or the lead guitar just ring the bell I am very well versed on both. And Ray when ever you need help let me know [This message was edited by Bill cole on 11 August 2004 at 09:00 PM.] |
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Jon Moody
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 8:03 pm
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Eric
I do know that they have an earlier album it seems like it came out a few years ago but never did anything, only I don't think they were using the same name then but I am not sure. John Rich was also one the original members of the band Lonestar. I don't know about the fist fight thing... Hope this helps.. |
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Bill cole
From:
Cheektowaga, New York, USA
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Posted 11 Aug 2004 8:05 pm
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| Les I think you can hear the same song any weekend or turn on the opry jsut diffrent folks doing the singing. But They won't sing in my band |
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Don Joslin
From:
St. Paul, MN
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Posted 12 Aug 2004 12:26 pm
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Hasn't one of the Big and Rich team written a more traditional country hit?
The initial release from this CD was a tune called "Wild West Show" - probably more country rock than country but closer than "Save a Horse...". Actually, a pretty catchy tune. This duo has written many country songs - Martina McBride likes to record their songs.
Don
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 12 Aug 2004 1:18 pm
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| Kevin and Bill--I'm listening! Our band started working on THAT SONG last night. Our keyboard player plays the fiddle parts and I play a pretty good horse whinny . It's fun but you know, Bill, I prefer the traditional. Kevin, looks like when you're playing one side of the street, we are playing on the other side. Fourth of July you were in Mayville and we were in Lakewood. Next weekend we will be at Best Western in Erie. See you guys sometime--Go Western New York Steelers! Joe |
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