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Topic: Needed information for triple neck 8 string guitars |
Bill Erb
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 3:24 am |
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Hello all. I was wondering what brand guitars that Cindy Cashdollar and the steel player from BR549 plays to get the sounds and good tone I am hearing. Also I was wondering what tunings they use from the back neck to the front order. Would they be playing a Fender Stringmaster? Also would they be using the longer neck or the shorter one? I have been wondering about this for a long time. I try getting this sound back on the C6th neck of my pedal steel guitar. It just don't have the same sound as the non pedal. I am thinking that the tuning also would affect the sound as to the register of the sound.Our band is thinking of playing some older music that I am hearing the non pedal steels in. I was reading about the different tunings. I was amazed as well as confused of just how many different tunings there are. If the band decides for sure to do this I will be looking to buy a non pedal steel. At that point my question would be which steel to buy and what tuning to use. This time I would like to only buy something once and get it right the first time. I would really appreciate any information or ideas anyone would have to share with me about this.
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BILL ERB
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Robert
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Chicago
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 5:12 am
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Bill - I can't speak for what kind (or kinds) of steel the player uses in BR549, but Cindy uses either a triple-neck Stringmaster, or a triple-neck Remington non-pedal. On the instructional tape she made for homespun, she teaches in C6, however, she evidently uses E6 a lot (a good key to fit Ray Benson's vocal range) and E13. I don't know which scale-length her guitar is, but it doesn't seem like she has to reach too hard in her lower-register slants - so my GUESS is that she uses a short-scale. The book that comes with the tape has a section of tunings with gauges - it's a very nice set of tapes, great for getting started, and perhaps for a pedal guy to go non-pedal with as well. Good luck.
Robert
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Dana Duplan
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Ramona, CA
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 5:20 am
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Actually I believe Cindy prefers the 24 1/2" Stringmasters (as do I). And..Donny Heron from BR5-49 usually plays a late '40's Fender Custom but I have also seen him with a Gibson Consolette. Both of his guitars would be short scale. If I remember correctly I believe Donny told me he mainly uses C6 and E6 tunings.
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Rich Young
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Georgetown, TX, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 9:52 am
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There is a store here in town that has (maybe had at this point) a steel Cindy Cashdollar was selling. It was a short scale (which I believe is why she is selling it) Stringmaster, that had C6th on the back, E13th (I think) on the middle and an other E tuning (E 6th I believe) on the front neck. It was still in tune 
I'd ask Ricky Davis or Herb Steiner, I'm sure they'd know. |
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 10:10 am
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It was 24.5 inch scale. I don't know whassup with the guitar now.
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Herb's Steel Guitar Homesite
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Bill Erb
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 12:15 pm
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Thanks everyone for replying to my post. What is the difference between the short neck verses the long neck? Does one sound better than the other or is one easier to play than another.
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BILL ERB
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Robert
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Chicago
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Posted 12 Oct 2000 3:29 pm
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Bill - The longer scale guitars make playing in tune above the twelfth fret easier, as each fret is accorded a little more room in the scale length - less crowding. But on the opposite end of the neck (the bottom)you'll just have to reach a little further to get some of your slants. Evidently Leo liked the sound of the longer scale, but players liked shorter scales for the aforementioned reason, as well as the reduced tension on the string reduced string breakage. I'm playing a short-scale Fender and have not played on a long-scale guitar, so I can't attest to how the two sound alongside each other - I'm sure somebody like Herb Steiner will tell you, but this is just info I've gathered from books, etc.
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