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Joe Delaronde

 

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Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 6:51 am    
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I want to make a complete key change from "E" to "F". Can anyone please tell me the chord sequence to play to change to "F" so it will sound good. A song on my Karaeoke cd has this and I just can't find the chords.

Also, changing from "D" to "E". Whatever I try doesn't sound good.

I want to make the tacks on Biab.

Thanks
Joe

[This message was edited by Joe Delaronde on 01 June 2002 at 07:53 AM.]

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Steve G

 

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San Leandro, CA, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 7:03 am    
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Of course there are lots of ways to change keys in a song. Sometimes you just jump to the next key like in "Me and Bobby McGee" (Joplin version anyway). Sometimes what I do is go to the 5 chord of the new key. So, if I want to change from C to D, then after the last measure of the song in C play an A7 chord (sometimes an A aug will work) then go into the D chord and you're off and running. Hope this helps.

Steve G.
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Fred Murphy

 

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Indianapolis, In. USA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 7:04 am    
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If you are wanting to transition from one key to another, you usually just go to the Fifth of the key you are wanting to change to. In this instance a key change from E to F would require you to go to a C7 chord, otherwise it requires a complete stop between key changes. I don't know if this is what you are wanting to know or not. If you are wanting some type of fancy key change, I can't help.
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Michael Holland


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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 7:09 am    
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Joe,

If you can post or e-mail an mp3 of the Karaoke CD modulation I'll be glad to chart and explain the changes.

Mike
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Joe Delaronde

 

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Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 7:10 am    
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Steve & Fred
Thanks for the reply.
The simpler the better. I was listening real hard to the cd and found it made a change to the fifth with a chord variation. The secong chord modification put me off. I got it now.
Thanks
Joe
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Joe Delaronde

 

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Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 1 Jun 2002 7:12 am    
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Michael
I'll take you up on that, just so It's right.
Thanks
Joe

[This message was edited by Joe Delaronde on 01 June 2002 at 08:13 AM.]

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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 2 Jun 2002 4:59 am    
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Joe, you didn't say what style tune but there is a common formula,

If you are in E, the three chord format ( standard R+R and Country )would be E,A and B,
I,IV and V , to make the change to the key of F, you would insert or play the C chord , rather than the B chord at the very end of your chord progression in E to lead into the F. C is the 5 ( V ) of F . This holds true for the change from D to E as well. At the very end of your D chord prgression ( D,G and A ) play the B chord which is the 5th (V) of E. As posted above there are many ways ( chord substitutions) to make the transistion but at the end of the day most are just extended inversions of the 5th or V chord. As Joe Pass once told me ( in the video of course) the right chord is the one that suits your ear and sounds pleasing.
A common voicing that I use on the 4 beat transition is two beats on the natural chord and two on the natural with added 9th. ( C/C9) BIAB does this very well.
good luck..
tp

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 02 June 2002 at 06:05 AM.]

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 02 June 2002 at 06:08 AM.]

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Joe Delaronde

 

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Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
Post  Posted 2 Jun 2002 6:56 am    
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Tony
Thanks! This one sounds more like the one I'm looking for. And your right, as mentioned before, there are many ways to do it, and you folks showed me more, except every version I tried, sounded sour, but like you said, the beats per chord makes a heck of a difference.

Thank you all for you help. My day is never wasted when I log onto the forum. I always learn something new. Soon I'll be the smartest man in town!!!!!!

Joe
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Tony Prior


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Charlotte NC
Post  Posted 2 Jun 2002 7:25 am    
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Hey Joe, (sounds like a song I should write ) when you become the smartest man in town would you call me and tell me what you know so I could be the second smartest man in town ?

Glad to help
I've always prescribed to the KISS principle
( keep it simple stupid)
good luck
tp

[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 02 June 2002 at 08:28 AM.]

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