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Topic: Tom Brumley with Buck Owens |
Martin Abend
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 5:20 am |
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One of my favourite steelers - Eric Heywood - mentioned in an interview that he was heavily influenced by old recordings of Buck Owens with Tom Brumley on steel. Since no store here in Berlin carries Owens CDs I'd like to know some titles of the concerning records with Tom Brumley on steel, so I can order them.
Thanks in advance.
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martin abend martinabend@yahoo.com
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 6:42 am
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The most famous one is "Together Again". That did wonders for both Buck and Tom's careers and has become a standard.
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David Mullis
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Rock Hill, SC
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 8:41 am
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I'd highly recomend the Buck Owens Collect. It's a 3 CD boxed set. In addition Tom Brumley, it has some of the earlier recordings with Ralph Mooney and Jay McDonald playing steel, as well as some of the later recordings with Jay Dee Maness I think?
Take Care
David
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Jeff Evans
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 9:17 am
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Martin:
Excellent taste.
The internet is quite useful for listening to samples of CDs and ordering the ones you want.
My pick: the Carnegie Hall live record from 1966. The Country Music Foundation has re-issued the entire performance on CD.
In addition to Tom's flawlessness, you get the incomparable Don Rich singing rich harmony. If you buy the same songs on the studio albums, it is often Buck singing with himself--not at all the same sound or experience. Plus that live recording just sounds great.
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Jeff
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 9:33 am
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In addition to Tom's flawlessness, you get the incomparable Don Rich singing rich harmony. If you buy the same songs on the studio albums, it is often Buck singing with himself--not at all the same sound or experience. Plus that live recording just sounds great.
100% correct.
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Herb's Steel Guitar Homesite
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ajm
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 11:59 am
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Some of the reissues and box sets can be found on Sundazed Records and Rhino Records.
It sounds like there are other smaller labels as well.
You might also try going to the Buck website or doing a search on the 'net.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 4 Aug 2000 4:30 pm
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Joe, I just bought the GoldWave software program that was $60 Canadian and I was charged less than $40 US on my credit card.
Just about backwards of what you quote, going by what all the Snowbirds say that we get down here in Florida in the winter.
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 5 Aug 2000 5:19 am
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I realize I am not adressing the originator of this thread's question, but I must comment on two players;
1. Tom Brumley
2. Don Rich
Tom is one of the greatest steel guitar players I have ever seen. He gets a tone that just simply blows my mind. He makes a three note chord sound as though it was one note (embellished with harmony of course).
Somehow he is able to consistently pick all the notes with the exact same power between his fingers and thumb. It is just awesome how he does this. And his tone on his latest CD is the best yet.
Don Rich, IMHO, is the greatest overall musician ever been! Just an awesome showman. His smile alone brought joy to anyone that watched/listened to him. What he brought to Buck's fantastic sound, I do not believe any other man on earth could have done. He appeared, to me, to be able to play a musical instrument without absolutely any effort. It was like the instrument was an extension of his body. And it was completely second nature to him on any instrument he played.
His stage demeanor could not have been better as a crowd pleaser. Look at almost any picture taken and just look at the inner joy this human being projected.
Buck was indeed fortunate to have had Tom And Don (others of course) in his rise to fame.
It is my firm belief that things coming together like this in life, are NO accident. Something is guiding the ship other than ourselves.
Give HIM thanks,
carl
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Bob Carlson
From:
Surprise AZ.
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Posted 5 Aug 2000 6:20 pm
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I have a lot of Buck’s records and CD’s and if I had to make a
choice,and it would be a hard choice, I’d take the ones with Jay
McDonald. He’s playing through what is probably a Fender
Bassman and I like that mellow Fender Sound. They really do a
good job on “Close all The Honky Tonks”
I licked Moon, Brumley and of coarse JD really good also up to
the time he quit playing Ballads.
ErnestTubb Record Shops will print you out a list of every LP,
Tape and CD they have of Buck, or anyone else, also list the
name of all the songs on each one.
PO Box 500
Nashville, TN 37202-0500 Phone 1-800-229-4288
They will also send you a Catalog. For free!
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Henning Antonsen
From:
Gaupevegen 18, 2335 Stange, Norway
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Posted 6 Aug 2000 7:31 am
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To Bob Carlson:
The steeler on "Close up the honky tonks" (recorded January 1964) is Tom Brumley, not Jay McDonald. Just thought I would pass that bit of info along. 
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GaryHoetker
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Bakersfield, CA, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2000 8:23 am
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| I agree with Bob Carlson. Jay McDonald is just superb and da man. Just play the cuts on Buck's "On the Bandstand" CD circa 1963 & you'll see. Jay's solo rendition of Release Me and his runs, fills and turnarounds on Sweethearts In Heaven (Owens & Rich duet) and Saw Mill are incredible. Jay played a Fender 1000. We just don't hear the steel played with the soul and emotion like this anymore. |
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Roland van Beveren
From:
Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 8 Aug 2000 12:42 pm
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Martin,
I agree with David Mullis. If you don't have any Buck Owens yet, buy The Buck Owens Collection 3 CD Box-Set. It is "supergeil!"
Roland
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Tim Harr
From:
Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 8 Aug 2000 9:06 pm
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Just a comment to the Buckaroos' Steel Sound....
The Fender Amplifiers that were used has an impact on the reverb and tone of the steel IMHO. If Tom had a Session 400 or an Evans...it wouldn't have sounded the same. Not to mention the way those tunes were recorded (Capitol Records in California). Those records were cut like the Hag's..... All done "Live" for the most part. The entire band picking at the same time. An album could be cut in like a week. Today, I am certain it takes several months.
A great sound that is being revived on albums by artists such as the DERAILERS and DALE WATSON.
Check them out if you like Buck and the Buckaroos.
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Tim Harr
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 9 Aug 2000 8:27 am
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Y'all go into Sundazed for your quality reissue of 1960's 'Buck Owens & his Buckaroos' on CD, withoriginal art, sleeve and session notes and extra
tracks.http://www.sundazed.com/index.html
Buck Owens and his Buckaroos page
http://www.sundazed.com/scripts/shopplus.cgi?DN=sundazed.com&CARTI D=4512937593&ACTION=action&FILE=/Buck.html
They also have a little bit on the bottom of each page....
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| Comments? Suggestions? A copy of our catalog? Or are you bored and just want to e-mail someone? We can be contacted at mail@sundazed.com |
Everyone should email them and ask if they will reissue the Buckaroos Lp's that they cut on their own during the 1960's and 1970's. I've tried it and I got an email back saying that they will 'keep it in mind'.
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John Moss
From:
Childress, Texas-USA
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Posted 9 Aug 2000 1:31 pm
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Well it does my heart good to see all the Buck Owens fans. I grew up with Buck Owens music and I guess that is where I developed my love of the steel guitar. The great steel guitar masters that worked and recorded with Buck, Don and the boys are true legends. Their sounds will ring in my head from now on.
Adios,
John
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Steve B
From:
Garland Texas
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Posted 9 Aug 2000 9:01 pm
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| The 3 - CD box set would be a good start. The "live at carnagie hall" album is a must have. In my opinion (and I am sure that I am not the only person that belives this) this is the best live music album ever made, and on the album is some of the best country music ever played. As a matter of fact, I am going to go get my copy & play it right now. |
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Tele
From:
Andy W. - Wolfenbuettel, Germany
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Posted 11 Aug 2000 2:43 pm
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HOLD THE PRESSES !!
Martin my friend , don't go diggin for gold over there when the goldmines just around the corner ! No, serious, I have all of the Sundazed CDs here at home and since we swap other things I think I could make a tape for you or even make a CD copy.
Let me know.
Andy |
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Martin Abend
From:
Berlin, Germany
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Posted 11 Aug 2000 11:00 pm
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Andy, you're the greatest, thanks a lot. I'll contact you.
And to you other guys: Thank a lot for sharing your info's and insights with me. As always, I really appreciate it.
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martin abend martinabend@yahoo.com
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 13 Aug 2000 7:27 am
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I'm all for taping and trading, but when there's a remastered CD version just sitting out there and when you've decided whether or not you dig Buck and the Buckaroos.......try buying some.
Then they might dig out some more goodies from the vaults.
Later guys.
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Neil Hilton
From:
Lexington, Kentucky
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Posted 14 Aug 2000 6:30 am
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Just stumbled into the Buck conversation here this morning...
Jeff E / Steve B - I'm gonna have to get the CarnegieHall gig CD, my mom and daddy saw Buck and the fellas in LasVegas within a month or so of the date of the Carnegie show. They were out there with some other couples and all had tixs purchased to see Frank Sinatra.... mom and dad found out that Buck was in town, so bagged out of Frank and went to see Buck instead! cheers! I've heard them talk about that show so many times, and obviously a huge part of what originally turned me on to "all things Bakersfield".
and on that note, I'll have to make my deterination regarding the "best live recorded show of all time".... that place for me has forever been solidly held by Merle and the Strangers live in Philadelphia circa March 15, 1970 "Fightin' Side"... anyway, will be great to lay Carnegie along side!! |
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Neil Hilton
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Lexington, Kentucky
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Posted 14 Aug 2000 6:38 am
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one other quick thought.... C Dixon's great comments of Don Rich's presence on stage with Buck, which I agree with full reverence, causes me to wonder if any video exists of that Carnegie show - even if simply in the form of some old home-movie quality footage --- what a wonderful thing if that could surface if exists??? I'd pay a nice dollar to have a copy of that.
Dixon's on the money.... there has been no better stage scene that Don sliding up to the mic stand alongside Buck to deliver some high harmonies, give a quick wink and a smile, then back away and flow into a lead line on that glittering telecaster.
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Jeff Evans
From:
Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 14 Aug 2000 9:41 am
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Fellas: Let's support the music we love. Your deutsche marks are votes: please cast them for country.
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Jeff[This message was edited by Jeff Evans on 14 August 2000 at 04:02 PM.] |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 14 Aug 2000 5:58 pm
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Actually, following the thought of recording at Carnige Hall, Red Simpson also did a set at the gig, at least that's the official story. The Buckaroos backed him too.
But it makes you wonder if the Buck Owens Ranch Show tapes would come out nicely on a CD box set, or on several volumes of CD's.
Not to mention all the video that still exists from that period, which would be 1966-1969? before Buck wound up the show in favour of Hee Haw. |
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Neil Hilton
From:
Lexington, Kentucky
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Posted 15 Aug 2000 6:03 am
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Jason - exactly, I'd love to make that purchase if any of that old video came available somehow..... I have business card here of the manager of Buck's Crystal Palace, I may just email an inquiry about that.
I've often desired the same of any old video of Hag and the Strangers in concert and/or TV appearances. I know there are a couple of more recent concert videos that have been out for some time..... but I'm more interested in video from that 1966-72 period when Norm, Roy, Bobby Wayne, were really cooking as the Strangers.
TNN did a "Life and Times" piece on Buck a year or two ago and was very good -- but the little snippets of scenes at the Blackboard and Lucky Spot really whetted my appetite for some full extended performance video.
I think we've swapped email about this before, dang, I wish there was a way to have some of this surface.... is likely some great old 8MM stuff out there in somebody's shoebox in a closet that they don't even know they have! |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 18 Aug 2000 10:01 am
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Neil there is circa 1969 footage of the Strangers with Roy Buchanan sitting in with them, it was on some doco a while back.
Also I have heard that some 1969-70 shows were taped, I'm sure there where some taped for the live LP in 1970. The Philadelphia gig?
I've never seen any 1960's footage of Buck or Merle in action, it's a little hard to come by here. Shoot we didn't even get Hee Haw and still don't.
Merle and The Strangers...In September 1968 they are part of Disneyworld’s ‘Country Music Jamboree’ with Wynn Stewart and Nashville stars Webb Pierce, Sheb Wooley, Flatt & Scruggs and Minnie Pearl. I imagine the good folks at Disney taped this?
Also it might be interesting to see if the ACM featured any live appearences by the Strangers during the late 1960's and early 1970's, there people all over the internet trying to flog off video tapes from the shows.
But I really don't know?...it would be nice to see them in action. Hromek, Bobby Wayne, Hamlett, Nichols, Merle and Biff on drums.
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