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Gary Shepherd


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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 26 Dec 2005 1:35 pm    
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It seems to me that the B+C pedal combination is very useful. I've heard/read folks talking about how they use the A+B combination 90% of the time. But I find myself using B+C nearly as much as the other combo. B+C is especially usefull for melodies.

You can do A LOT of stuff with those 2 pedals and the F and Bb levers. For example...



G | | | | | | | D | | | | | | |
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|3---3C--5C------|5C--3C--3-------|1F--3---3C----3-|1F--------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|3---3B--5B------|5B--3B--3-------|1---3---3B----3-|1---------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|
|----------------|----------------|----------------|----------------|


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Larry R

 

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Navasota, Tx.
Post  Posted 26 Dec 2005 9:34 pm    
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You're right on Gary. I use B&C quite a bit now in my playing. Two tunes that are using it a lot are: "Stars on the Water", and "Lotta Leavin' Left To Do" amongst many others as well.
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Frank Bresee

 

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Mount Forest Ontario Canada
Post  Posted 1 Jan 2006 3:34 pm    
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Thanks for that Gary,
I think I was just lazy when it came to the B/C pedals and so I was always a little uncomfortable with them. What changed it for me was a set of tunes with tab that i got from Dick Meis..he uses them quite ofter. I use them more now and of course along with that comes all the new possibilites and sounds......
Frank Bresee
Fergus Ontario
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2006 1:47 pm    
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I use them some but would like to learn more. It seems to me that I saw a course at one time that focused on the C pedal. I searched all the online vendors and couldn't find one. Was I just dreaming or was a course ever written?

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Gary Shepherd


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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2006 4:59 pm    
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If you find a course on the B+C combination, I'd like to know about it. Might be good stuff.

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Gary Shepherd


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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 2 Jan 2006 5:02 pm    
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Or maybe I should just write one. Anybody got some B+C licks that should be included?

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Jerry Touval

 

From:
Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2006 2:34 pm    
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Any additional B-C tab you care to post would be welcomed - the last one, simple as it was, was an eye opener for this 2.5-year beginner!

Jerry
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Joey Ace


From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2006 4:40 pm    
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Key of A, resolving to the Tonic

1_________________________________________________
2__________________________________________________
3__________________________________________________
4__________5C__~_5___~__5L_~_5__~_5C__~__5_____
5__________5C__~_5___~__5__~_5__~_5C__~__5______
6__________5B__~_5B__~__5B_~_5B_~_5B__~__5_____
7__________________________________________________


Only pick the first chord. Use vibrato and volume pedal to make all following chords the same level.

Practice in all keys.
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Frank Huysveld

 

From:
Belgium
Post  Posted 4 Jan 2006 3:57 pm    
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nice things
have everyone more from the b+c pedals

frank

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Jerry Touval

 

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Great Falls, Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jan 2006 5:30 pm    
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Joey - Very nice. Thanks.

Jerry
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Drew Howard


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Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 8:47 am    
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V to I - D to G

2---10L-10L----10L---------
3---10--10^10B-10---10A----
4---10--10^10C-10---10-----
5-------------------10^10A-

Here is a Hal Rugg-ism (John Hughey, too):

2-12L-----10L-----10L-----
3-12B-----10B-----10------
4-12C-----10C-----10------
5-----12C-----10C------10-



cheers,
Drew

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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 9:35 am    
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Check out Dick Meis's tab of "Stems and Seeds" and "Dire Wolf" for come cool / easy BC pedal useage.

It's here: http://home.earthlink.net/~johnbarnold/licksarchive/
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Charles Turpin

 

From:
Mexico, Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 10:17 am    
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I don't no if it is still available but about 81 when i was first changing over to pedal steel from Guitar. Paul franklin , I believe it was had a tape course out on just the C pedal. I don't realy get where people say they use the A+B combination more than the B+C combination. Almost every course or even lick anymore I see tabbed out the steel player is using the B+C combination in the licks and phrases.

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richard burton


From:
Britain
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 1:26 pm    
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I tend to use B+C pedals when copping John Hughey licks.
Heres my take on the 'Look At Us' intro:

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Ron !

 

Post  Posted 5 Jan 2006 9:39 pm    
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Those are the pedals I use a lot 'cause I like to play a lot in the rock-style.
Like a couple of steelers did before me I to like to get more kinds of music out of the steel guitar and not only the old-fashioned styles.Though I play the older genres still the most.


Ron

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Marc Friedland


From:
Fort Collins, CO
Post  Posted 8 Jan 2006 5:17 pm    
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This is not in tab form, but perhaps some will find it helpful.

Major Scale in G

Strings 4 & 6
The root will be on the 4th string and the low 3rd harmony is on the 6th

You can play the exact same positions for the same scale but instead of picking the 4th & 6th strings, pick the 3rd & 4th instead.
Your root will still be on the 4th and now your 3rd harmony will now be an octave higher than it was using the 4th & 6th

When I say open position, it means no pedals or levers engaged
When I say B&C, it means to press both the two pedals on the right at the same time before hitting the strings

Fret Position Notes(root)

3 OPEN G

3 B&C A

5 B&C B

8 OPEN C

10 OPEN D

10 B&C E

12 B&C F#

15 OPEN G

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