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Topic: Traditional fiddle tunes |
guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 11 Nov 2000 8:48 am |
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Greetings,
I was wondering if any fellow forumites might have some arrangements of some fiddle tunes.(eg. Red Haired Boy, Blackberry Blossom,Arkansas Traveler, Black Mountain Rag etc.) Thanks
Mike |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 15 Nov 2000 5:22 am
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Mike, I have an arrangement for Billy in the Low Ground, note for note as played on the fiddle and as I pick on the banjo. I have some large projects ahead of me, so give me a week and I'll tab it out. I renamed this tune when I play it on the banjo,one called, William went to the High Ground at Mach 2.2.! Unfortunately, I can't play this tune as fast on steel as I can on the old five. Must be a mental block or I just plain can't cut it on steel. OH WELL!!
Gary Lee |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 15 Nov 2000 6:23 am
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Gary,
Thank you for your reply.I play Billy in the low ground on acoustic 6 string in C. Also I forgot to mention the tuning I am asking the tab for would be E9th.I feel that playing fiddle tunes is a great way to practice blocking and learn different licks as opposed to the standard E9th sound.
Thanks again ,Mike |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 15 Nov 2000 1:04 pm
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Mike, I also play Billy.... in the key of C on banjo and steel. Seems to flow easier on the back neck and I do not use a cheater for the old five!
Gary Lee |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 15 Nov 2000 4:43 pm
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| C6th tab would be cool too! |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 16 Nov 2000 5:28 am
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Mike,I forgot to mention that my version uses alot, maybe 60%, of open strings. Kinda forces you to use some sort of right hand blocking technique. The real challenge is 168 clicks per minute.
Gary Lee |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 17 Nov 2000 5:57 am
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Band in a box has a Bluegrass software package that has all these tunes laid out for you in note and tab form.
The tab is done for fiddle,banjo,mandolin and guitar and you can slow them down to learn the songs.
I have the software and it is neat and the tunes are done in the style of some very good players.
Give them a call and check it out.
Don[This message was edited by Don Sulesky on 17 November 2000 at 05:58 AM.] |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 17 Nov 2000 2:27 pm
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Part “A” is played 3 times. All 0-2. 0-1, 2-0 is hammer on or pull off.
And should be played at 168 clicks/Allegro!! String #1 is a D.This is only
the first half of the tune.
Part A
7_________0_________0___
8_2-3__3_____3___3______
Part B
7)___________0________
8)_2-3___3_______3____
Melody starts here
3)________________________________0
4)___________________________0-2___
5)_______________________0_________
6)____________________0____________
7)__________0____0-2_______________
8)____0__2____2____________________
9)_2______________________________
1)________0__________________________
2)___________________________________
3)____0______0____________0__________
4)_2____________0______0_____0_______
5)_________________0-1___________0___
3)_______________0_______0______________________________________0_
4)________0-2______ 0________0_____________________________0-2____
5)____0______________ 0_________0_______________________0_________
6)_0_________________________________0_______________0____________
7)_______________________________________2-0_____0-2______________
8)____________________________________________2___________________
1)_________0___________________________________________
2)_____________________________________________________
3)_____0_______0_____________0____________ 0___________
4)_2______________0_______0____0______ 0-2___ 0________
5)___________________0-1__________0___________ 0_______
6)__________________________________0___________ 0_____
7)___________________________________________________0_
[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 23 November 2000 at 12:53 AM.] |
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2000 5:48 pm
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| There is a 'crooked' version of Billy In the Lowground that's often played by West Virginia fiddlers. Any of you all hear it? |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 9:17 am
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Gary,
Thanks for the tab,
Mike |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 10:27 am
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I hope you can decipher through some posting error of which I tried to fix.
Steve, I never heard of the "crooked" version. If its anything like my posting boo boo it must be awesome ! I do know a great fiddle player in West Virginia, Jimmy Unger. His son, Jimmy Unger Jr., also another great. Ever hear of them?
Gary Lee[This message was edited by Gary Lee Gimble on 19 November 2000 at 03:17 PM.] |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 10:37 am
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Red Haired Boy
A part
1____________________________________________________________________
2____________________________________________________________________
3____________________________________________________________________
4____________________________________________________________________
5__________________5_5a_5______________5_____________________________
6_____________5_5b________5_5b____5_5b________5b_5___________________
7_________5_______________________________________5__________________
8_____5_5___5____________________________5__5_______5________________
9____________________________________________________5_5_____________
10__5________________________________________________________________
1____________________________________________________________________
2__________________________________________5l___5l___________________
3____________________________________________________________________
4_____________________________________________5______________________
5_________________5_5a_5______________5_5a________5a_5_______________
6____________5_5b________5_5b____5_5b__________________5b_5__________
7________5__________________________________________________5________
8____5_5___5__________________________________________________5_5l_5_
9____________________________________________________________________
10_5_________________________________________________________________
B Part
1____________________________________________________________________
2_______5l_____5l___5l_________5l____________________________________
3____________________________________________________________________
4________________5___________________________________________________
5__5_5a____5a_________5a_5_5a___5a_5_____________5___________________
6___________________________________5_5b___5_5b________5b_5__________
7___________________________________________________________5________
8__________________________________________________5_5________5______
9_______________________________________________________________5_5__
10___________________________________________________________________
[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 24 April 2002 at 10:00 AM.] |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 11:55 am
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I took some liberties to try to make this more user friendly, Mike. If it works (big if) maybe you want to delete yours to return the page format to a manageable size.
Red Haired Boy
tabbed by Mike "guitar543"
A Part
1________________________________________________________________________
2________________________________________________________________________
3________________________________________________________________________
4________________________________________________________________________
5_____________________5_5A_5_________________5___________________________
6_______________5_5B__________5_5B____5_5B__________5B_5_________________
7__________5_______________________________________________5_____________
8_____5_5_____5_________________________________5__5__________5__________
9________________________________________________________________5_5_____
10_5_____________________________________________________________________
1______________________________________________________________________________
2________________________________________________5L____5L______________________
3______________________________________________________________________________
4____________________________________________________5_________________________
5_____________________5_5A_5________________5_5A__________5A_5_________________
6_______________5_5B__________5_5B____5_5B_____________________5B_5____________
7_________5___________________________________________________________5________
8____5_5_____5__________________________________________________________5_5L_5_
9______________________________________________________________________________
10_5___________________________________________________________________________
B Part
1_____________________________________________________________________________
2______5L_____5L____5L__________5L____________________________________________
3_____________________________________________________________________________
4________________5____________________________________________________________
5_5_5A____5A___________5A_5_5A_____5A_5__________________5____________________
6_________________________________________5_5B___5_5B_________5B_5____________
7____________________________________________________________________5________
8_______________________________________________________5_5____________5______
9_________________________________________________________________________5_5_
10____________________________________________________________________________
[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 24 April 2002 at 09:57 AM.] |
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 1:21 pm
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My take on the tune....Some similarities, but a couple of twists:
'A' Part
3____________________________________________________________________
4___________________________________|________________________________
5______________________5-5A-5_______|_______5________________________
6________________5-5B__________5-5B_|_5-5B___________5_______________
7______________5____________________|______________5______5__________
8_________5__5______________________|_________5__5_____5____5________
9__5~4______________________________|_________________________5~4~5__
0_______5___________________________|________________________________
3___________________________________________________________________
4___________________________________|________5__5___________________| |
5______________________5-5A-5_______|______5______5A-5______________| |
6________________5-5B__________5-5B_|_5-5B_____________5B__5_______.| |
7______________5____________________|_______________________________| |
8_________5__5______________________|________________________5__5__.| |
9__5~4______________________________|_______________________________| |
0_______5___________________________|_______________________________| |
'B' Part
1____________________________________________
2_______5L____5L___5L____|______5L___________|
3________________________|___________________|
4________________5_______|___________________|
5__5-5A____5A_________5A_|_5-5A____5A_5____5_|
6________________________|______________5B___|
7________________________|___________________|
8________________________|___________________|
9________________________|___________________|
0________________________|___________________|
3_______________________________________________________________
4_______________________________|_______________________________|
5_______5_______________________|___________________5-5A-5______|
6__5-5B__________5______________|______________5-5B________5-5B_|
7______________5______5_________|____________5__________________|
8_________5__5_____5____5_______|_______5__5____________________|
9_________________________5~4~5_|_5~4___________________________|
0_______________________________|_____5_________________________|
1______________5_________________________
2________________________________________|
3________________________________________|
4___________5____5_______________________|
5________5__________5A-5_________________|
6__5-5B___________________5B__5__________|
7_______________________________5________|
8_________________________________5~5L~5_|
9________________________________________|
0________________________________________|
[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 24 April 2002 at 10:04 AM.] |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 19 Nov 2000 3:07 pm
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Jon and Steve, Thanks for the help, I have never tried to post tab so it was a bit sloppy(sorry). I am pleased that their is an interest in this post.I have only played a few years so I was hoping that my arrangement would be critiqued as such,
Thanks,Mike |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 20 Nov 2000 6:46 pm
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This is a subject I am really interested in.
Never did have the verse the way I liked it to "Cotton Eyed Joe". The version I would like to play is from Urban Cowboy movie. Bridge to "Cotton Eyed Joe" is no problem.
I have heard Julian Thorpe and Terry Wood play a good bluegrass tune called "Lost Indian". Does anyone have tab on Lost Indian?
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2000 7:15 pm
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| I'll try to post Lost Indian ASA I can, Keith. There are also multiple versions of this tune - like many others - including Cotton Eyed Joe, which has another, distinctly different version than the more common one. |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 20 Nov 2000 7:51 pm
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| Steve, I am aware that there is a different version of Cotton Eyed Joe. That is why I said the one played on the Movie Urban Cowboy. I have the actual music to both versions ,and still can't get the verse to sound like I want. Drives me crazy because I hear 6 string guitar players play it the Urban Cowboy way all the time. |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 24 Apr 2002 8:13 am
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 24 Apr 2002 9:33 am
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| Here's something to consider. I recently joined an Irish band, with fiddle and accordian. The group's repertoire is Irish folks songs and fiddle instrumentals, called jigs. I get to take solos in the jigs and have chosen to play the melodies on several of them, same as the fiddle player. This is definitely a good exercise in trying to expand both technique and musical ideas since the jigs don't fit so perfectly in conventional E9. If you can find such an opportunity, I recommend it. Jigs tend to be either fast, half-time (2/4) numbers or waltzes. They are, to my ears, musically interesting, with a lot of emotion built into the composition, and are not just I,IV,V. There are often tricky twists, with lots of minors, and real quick changes, some times from note to note. If anyone is interested, I can post the name of the jigs we do. [This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 24 April 2002 at 10:37 AM.] |
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guitar543
From:
Kent, Oh
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Posted 24 Apr 2002 2:42 pm
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Jeff,
That would be real cool to see what arr. you have come up with. I play acoustic guitar also and have worked on a number of fiddle tunes w/ a group of folks I play with.
Adam Granger (Prairie home companion guitarist) has a great book of over 500 fiddle tunes he has compiled over the years.One question, Aren't most jigs in 6/8 or 9/8 timing where as reels are generally in 4/4 or 2/4? My guess is that you are counting 6/8 as: one triplet, two triplet, etc. Thanks, Mike[This message was edited by guitar543 on 24 April 2002 at 05:01 PM.] |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 24 Apr 2002 5:02 pm
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These are the jigs we do, with the times and keys
Argeers 2/2 D
Virgin Pullets 4/4 D
YSTWFFWL (The Doorknocker) 3/4 G
The Burning of the Piper's Hut 4/4 Bm
I'll Mend Your Pots and Kettles 4/4 G
The Stool of Repentance 6/8 A
Dunse Dings 4/4 A
Lord Inchiquin 3/4 D
Jenny Nettles 4/4 Am
The Mullin Dhu 4/4 C
We do others as well. Most of the 4/4's are done in cut time, to a "Truck Drivin' Man" type of tempo. There are very good sounding, well constructed, and challenging instrumentals. |
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Steve Feldman
From:
Central MA USA
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Posted 27 Apr 2002 7:01 am
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The common theme in jigs is this triplet thing, but it's not like a waltz at all. I can't describe it well, but a common picking pattern with jigs - say if you were playing a mandolin, tenor b@njo, or bazouki - is this:
DOWN-up, DOWN-DOWN-up, DOWN-DOWN-up, DOWN-DOWN-up (emphasis in caps). This might translate to THUMB-finger, T-T-f, T-T-f, etc. on steel.
Like I say, I can't explain it very well, but the rhythm of a jig is definately a 1-2, 1-1-2, 1-1-2, 1-1-2 kind of thing. Jigs survived only in the northern U.S. states (and Canada) after they were 'imported' from the Scotch-Irish tradition. Very few jigs made it into the southern fiddle tradition. |
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 28 Apr 2002 3:38 am
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| Anyone have any tab for jigs & reels for non-pedal? |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 28 Apr 2002 6:53 am
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Andy...if you haven't heard of Tabledit
yet, this is the TAB program of all TAB
programs. In my archives are well over 200
jigs/reels/hornpipes; and new ones are added all the time.
But you have to have TABLEDIT with it's associated '.tef' file formatt to view and
access any music.
You can download the demo version for free, but for $50 or so, the full version is the way to go.
www.tabledit.com
FWIW...ChipsAhoy |
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