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Topic: Excel U12 Pedal Rods Rubbing Against Cabinet |
Alex Mak
From: New York, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 1:28 pm
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Hi all,
Touring guitarist finally dipping my toes into the steel world! I got an older Excel U12 8x6 for a great deal, but it needs some TLC.
I reached out to Excel a bit ago, but haven't heard anything back yet.
There are black stickers on the pedal rods to indicate their order, but I'm not sure if the "highest" sticker should be on pedal 1 or 8.
The B and C rods are rubbing against the side of the cabinet when pressed, causing friction and wearing away the metal. The pedal rods also seem to be bending around this spot. Is there any way to prevent this?
I wasn't sure if this may be from having the pedal rack on the wrong legs, pictures attached. There are metal spacer rings on 2 of the legs, but I wasn't sure their purpose.
There are a few other things I'm trying to fix, but sorting these out first should be enough to get things up and running. Any help or info on this steel is much appreciated, thanks in advance!
Imgur link with pics: https://imgur.com/a/excel-u12-GNJENMP |
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Mike Vallandigham
From: Martinez, CA
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 2:00 pm
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The pedal rods are supposed to be bent a little - just after they clear the apron - to prevent rubbing. Maybe add a little more bend to them? |
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David Munson
From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 3:55 pm Put Velcrox pads on frame for rubbing
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Put adheasive Velcrox tape on frame for rubbing. |
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David Munson
From: St. Louis, Missouri, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 4:00 pm pedal 1 is on the left
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email me for more informaation.
Mine is newer. 2003 model |
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Marvin Born
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 7:47 pm Excel
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Is it possible that the pedal rods are not factory? Those rings could be part of an height extension kit. Raising the guitar the height of those rings would require new pedal rods, or rod extensions. If they are after market, they may not be bent correctly. |
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Toshiyuki Shoji
From: Japan
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Posted 4 Feb 2025 11:08 pm
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Hi Alex
You seem to be having trouble.
I am a former employee of Excel and last summer I went independent with my own company called SHOJI.
But now I am on leave from work while I am being treated for Guillain-Barre Syndrome.
Your instrument was made long before I started working with Excel.
Since I have not seen your instrument in person, I cannot solve all problems, but I will answer as best I can.
The sticker on the pedal rod was placed by the previous owner.
I would guess that the previous owner's intent is that the rod without the sticker was 8P, or that it was 4P but the sticker was removed.
You are free to leave these stickers on or remove them.
Regarding the pedal rod rubbing issue.
The solution is either to increase the bend of the pedal rod or to use a stick file to remove the rubbing area on the cabinet.
Regarding leg spacers.
The previous owner may have used legs with spacers for the front legs. The intention was to lengthen the legs of the steel guitar.
From the pictures it looks like there will be no half stops. I can't say for sure because I don't have detailed photos.
It is not pleasant from a mental health standpoint to have a changer rod (pull rod) that is too long.
Understandable.
I think it will work as is, if you are concerned, you could try removing the bent rod once and straightening it back out.
The fact that the tuning nut is difficult to turn.
Try putting lubricant in the white plastic barrel, which contains the screw at the end of the pull rod.
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