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Tim Pillow
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Posted 4 Jan 2025 5:17 pm |
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Any one know where these can found? They appear to be BL710 with the chrome surround. It looks to be it might a custom fabrication. |
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Skip Edwards
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Posted 5 Jan 2025 8:36 am
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Tim, I believe that looks like an original BL705. They had chrome surrounds, instead of the black surrounds they have today.
I have them in my SuperPro, and they rock. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 5 Jan 2025 9:17 am
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I think Skip is right. I have never seen a 710 with chrome surrounds.
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Jerry Overstreet
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Posted 5 Jan 2025 9:32 am
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| yehbut aren't those pole pieces v blade? Don't recall seeing BL705s with pole pieces? |
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Skip Edwards
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Posted 5 Jan 2025 10:45 am
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I'm not sure if we're seeing pole pieces, or just shadows from the strings, or ?
The pic isn't as high def as it could be.
Why not ask Paul? He's on the forum... |
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Posted 6 Jan 2025 12:55 pm
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| Could be reflections, I dunno. It was just an observation as I saw it. I'm sure he has used a variety of pickups. |
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Marco Schouten
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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 7 Jan 2025 5:19 am
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I'm seeing pole pieces as well.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 7 Jan 2025 7:36 am
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| Marco Schouten wrote: |
| I'm seeing pole pieces as well. |
I blew up the pic and think I see pole pieces too, but it's not clear enough. With Franklin's reputation, I think it would be possible to have Lawence custom build pickups for them.
I started using 710s in the 80's when I got 2 used ones and put them in a Super Pro. I eventually changed from George L pickups to 710s in my Carter. I switched the 710 on E9 to BL XR-16 with a coil tap switch. I am in the process of changing my C6 710 to an XR-16 with coil splitting.
Maybe they had another model with chrome surrounds that wasn't a 705 or 710.
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Francesco Porcu
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Italy
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Posted 8 Jan 2025 5:00 am BL 705 Chrome
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Hi guys that steel Franklin used with Dire Straits in the studio in 1991 to record On Every Street and it's the same steel he normally uses today in his live shows with Chris Stapleton and they are BL705 Chrome pick ups, what you see are just the normal shadows of the strings on the pick up blades. Good music Frank  |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 8 Jan 2025 10:33 am
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| Those look like pole pieces to me. |
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Tim Pillow
From:
Arizona
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Posted 9 Jan 2025 4:57 pm Re: BL 705 Chrome
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[quote="Francesco Porcu"]Hi guys that steel Franklin used with Dire Straits in the studio in 1991 to record On Every Street and it's the same steel he normally uses today in his live shows with Chris Stapleton and they are BL705 Chrome pick ups, what you see are just the normal shadows of the strings on the pick up blades. Good music Frank
I don’t see any shadows, what I see are pole pieces what appears to me look like a Bill Lawrence 710. This must be a custom fab for him.
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 10 Jan 2025 1:38 am Re: BL 705 Chrome
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| Tim Pillow wrote: |
| Francesco Porcu wrote: |
| Hi guys that steel Franklin used with Dire Straits in the studio in 1991 to record On Every Street and it's the same steel he normally uses today in his live shows with Chris Stapleton and they are BL705 Chrome pick ups, what you see are just the normal shadows of the strings on the pick up blades. Good music Frank |
No sir!.. this isnt the guitar he used on the on the night tour. This is one of two(or more) chrome guitars. This is no doubt a 710 with pole pieces with chrome.
This must be a custom fab for him. I dont know. But I like it, my favorite pickups totally my style. |
Hi Tim, maybe you misunderstood my message, I don't speak English but I translated my Italian with Google Translate, I never wrote that Paul used that steel you see in the photo during the tour with DS but I wrote that he used it in the recording studio to record the new Dire Straits CD in 1991 On Every Street, I invite you to read my post very carefully, Paul used the red and yellow steel during the whole tour with Dire Straits. In an old post Paul writes these words (I used my chrome PSG to record in the studio with The Notting Hillbillies in 1990 connected to an old Fender Delux reverb, then during their live tour he used the red and yellow PSG, then he writes this - I used the chrome steel in the recording studio with Dire Straits in 1991 for the On Every Street sessions, these are words written by Paul in an old post) The steel you see in the photo Paul still uses today in live with Chris Stapleton and if you go and look at the videos on YouTube you will see that those are chrome BL705s, there are videos guys I invite you to look at them before writing that you see 710s, those are normal reflections of light on the strings that reflect on the edges of the 705s. Frank |
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Tim Pillow
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Arizona
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Posted 10 Jan 2025 12:13 pm Re: BL 705 Chrome
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Yes you are right, I misread your statement Frank. That isnt in dispute.
But!. Im not sure what your previous statement has to do with these pickups that we are viewing in this picture. We all know about the 705 and the 705 chrome they are bladed pickups, But these are in fact are a BL 710 “style” with pole pieces. Could be these arent Bill Lawrence but some other custom builder. I have never seen them until now. Maybe Paul Franklin can interject here. |
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Posted 10 Jan 2025 2:15 pm
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At the risk of being completely daft and only speculating, how hard would it be to just dress up the pickup housing with some vinyl wrap chrome tape?
That's the sort of thing that I might do had I thought of it.
I like shiny and chromey. 🤓 |
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Dean Holman
From:
Branson MO
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Posted 10 Jan 2025 6:09 pm
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| I believe these are original 705’s, for a couple of reasons. 1. 705’s are taller than 710’s, a pretty noticeable difference. Number 2. The housing on the 710’s, the corners are squared off, to a sharp edge, 705’s are rounded on the corners. I’ll have to admit, I’ve looked at pictures of pickups before, thinking they were pole magnets, when they were actually blade pickups. Sometimes with the lighting, and the way it hits the strings, it can be deceiving, but the only pickups that I’ve ever seen Paul use, are either original 705’s, or 710’s, in the black housing. I also know, that one of his chrome guitars, has the 710’s, and the other chrome Franklin, has the original 705 pickups. |
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Francesco Porcu
From:
Italy
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Posted 11 Jan 2025 2:33 am BL 705 Chrome
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| Dean Holman wrote: |
| I believe these are original 705’s, for a couple of reasons. 1. 705’s are taller than 710’s, a pretty noticeable difference. Number 2. The housing on the 710’s, the corners are squared off, to a sharp edge, 705’s are rounded on the corners. I’ll have to admit, I’ve looked at pictures of pickups before, thinking they were pole magnets, when they were actually blade pickups. Sometimes with the lighting, and the way it hits the strings, it can be deceiving, but the only pickups that I’ve ever seen Paul use, are either original 705’s, or 710’s, in the black housing. I also know, that one of his chrome guitars, has the 710’s, and the other chrome Franklin, has the original 705 pickups. |
Great point Dean, you said it right Paul has always used the chrome 705s and the 710s, this one in the photo is the chrome steel that he still uses today in Chris Stapleton's live shows and if one goes on YouTube and sees all the videos that are circulating of Stapleton's live shows he sees this steel and also sees what kind of pick ups they are (chrome 705s) those fake pegs are nothing more than normal reflections of the strings on the pick up plates. Regards Frank |
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