Reverse pedal 6 phrases?

Cody Coombs · From: Washington, USA

Hi all,

On my c6 neck I have the knee lever that lowers my 2nd string and raises my 6th. (The reverse of pedal 6 which raises the 2nd string and lowers the 6th.) Anyone have any uses or phrases they would care to share?

Thanks,
Cody

Ron Funk · From: Ballwin, Missouri

Cody

I don’t have any specific single string licks using ‘the opposite of Pedal 6’ change, but I do find it very useful as an alternate ‘voicing / inversion ‘ as the original chord produced by engaging Pedal 6.

And of course you can use either of those two inversions as the 1 chord in your progression.

Ron

Cody Coombs · From: Washington, USA

I have found that if mixed with the 8th pedal (boowah) it can make what I think is a nice augmented chord.

I have been doing some reading on all of the previous posts about this same lever and have come across many good bits of information. This back neck is still a huge mystery to me, but I’m slowly getting the hang of it!

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I have it on p4 next to p5. Like Ron, I use it with pedal 5 mostly. P5 + p6 gives a nice Cdim in the lower strings. Combining p5 with the reverse 6 lever gives the Cdim in the higher strings.

Also allows you to minor the C chord on string 2 with strings 3 and 5.

Gives an F note in the middle strings that is missing otherwise. Although, I have a lever that lowers string 5 from G to F, giving an F in the middle, and raises string 1 to D#.

I am anxious to see other uses though. Thanks for asking.
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J D Sauser · From: Wellington, Florida

P6 mainly turns the 9th-string rooted M7th(9th) chord into a Dominant 7th chord... if you look at the E-string drop... it drops the M7th degree down half to b7th.
For single note playing the pocket can be "seen" with or without the pedal engage.
IF you are an E9th pedal... FM7/9 (P6) is pretty much the thing, just with lower register.

The pedal can also be seen as lowering the M3rd degree of the 7th string rooted M6th chord to a minor 6th chord.

And you can also look at either a minor 6th (putting the 6th in the bass as a root) as a Half-Diminished or m7,b5 chord OR as the E-drop dropping the 5th degree half on an 8th-string rooted minor chord.

Adding P5:

If you look at a P6 Dominant chord rooted at the 9th string, P5 ALONE will create the same chord rooted at the 10 string 3 fret further up. A Dominant 7/9th. The same applies here as described in the 3 steps above about P5, the chord, changing it's roots can be viewed as a minor or a half diminished.

Both pedals P5&P6 together, aka. "The main pedals" will create a fully diminished chord.

Keep in mind that the C6th tuning lacks a TriTone intervals. Therefore, while it is inherently a Maj6th AND a minor 7th tuning, the main missing ingredient are Dominant chords.
This is why Jerry Byrd had a C# on the bottom (the M3rd of o A, giving him the ability to turn the Am7th into an A7th... basically the "invention of P8 in 1936 before pedals even where added to steel guitars).

So, there was a need to create Dominant chords and P5, P6, P8 do that... but then much more.

I might add that P7 should in my opinion first be understood as creating the same line up of degrees on the 7th-string rooted M6th position as foun 7 frets above or 5 frets below on the 9th string rooted M7/9 position two strings back.

P7 can be combined with P5, P6 or both (requiring two feet on most setups).

P7 & P8 create the very closely the same lineup of degrees as found on the old B11th tuning. Adding an E-string Whole Tone lower to that is the gate way int Quartal Voicings.

... J-D.
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