Removed from YouTube: Herby Wallace "10,000 Years"

Adam Sewell · From: New York, USA

Every month or so, I'll pull this video up and be brought to tears. Wallace is playing at a convention, though I don't recall the name or exact year. About a year ago, a copyright strike got it pulled from YouTube. I found some dead links to that video, but it redirects to a generic YouTube page with a message stating that the video was "removed due to a copyright claim by The Pedal Steel Hall of Fame, Inc."

I discovered that a gentleman Scott DeWitt was associated with the Pedal Steel Hall of Fame, so I sent an email inquiring about the possibility of him re-uploading this video. Unfortunately, I never received a response, but I'm sure he has a good reason for removing the video. Still it seems a terrible loss to strike this video from the online record. If anyone has more info on this beautiful performance and where I could hear it again, I'd be deeply grateful.

Adam

Larry Dering · From: Missouri, USA

Unless you just recovered from a coma this has been heavily discussed on the forum long ago. DeWitt Scott passed away long ago and Michael Scott was involved in a cease order on all the videos from the ISGC and any involved with the Hall of Fame. You probably won't get a reply from Michael. Forum member Bill Ferguson posted those videos and was forced to turn over his personal video library and computer. Look for the details in some of his posts.

Adam Sewell · From: New York, USA

Not in coma, just a brand new member who was deeply moved by Herby’s performance. Unfortunately the forum’s search feature is broken in my browser for whatever reason.

I appreciate the info and context.

Larry Dering · From: Missouri, USA

Adam, sorry to hear that. Herby was a friend and I visited with him at many shows and stayed at his cabin in Tennessee several times. There was a post on here that his daughter was still making Herby material available for sale. I believe she was on Facebook. I will try to locate it and post a link. I may have that song on one of his CDs. If so I will let you know. Here was the link talking about his courses and materials.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=386232&highlight=herby+wallace

Larry Dering · From: Missouri, USA

https://youtu.be/Sk9tEJaRn5U?si=nPW-1cICC6AXdcQ6
Try this link for a sweet version of 10,000 years by our forum member Dale Rottacker. Dale is a fine player and you can feel the emotion in his playing.

Detlef Webert · From: Europe - DE

Hi Larry,

very smooth and soulful steelin'.
I like it very much.
D.

John McClung · From: Olympia WA, USA

Herby was such a great player and gentleman! He was the first player I saw using a Mullen.
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Larry Dering · From: Missouri, USA

Herby sold me my 1st Mullen D10 8x4 back in 94. It was due to my admiration for his playing and sound. I will never come close to his incredible talent but we became friends and I attended as many steel shows as possible to see him perform.

Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

Talked to Herbie many times back in the 80's and was always struck by how gentle he appeared. The first time I heard or was even aware of "Ten Thousand Years" was from Herbie playing it in a live recording since removed. BTW, thank you Larry for your kind words on my humble version of it.

I was always amazed by Herbie's speed aka FWD, yet as fast as he was, he also played some of the most beautiful ballads around.

Its a shame that so many of our greats are being taken off air, with this younger generation never being able to appreciate by watching the hundreds of hours of video we were all able to enjoy watching for so many years. History lost, Legacy ruined.
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Norman Evans · From: Tennessee

https://youtu.be/vctskf5ne74?t=963

Paul King · From: Gainesville, Texas, USA

I loved to hear Herby Wallace play. And he was a first class man as well. As far as Michael Scott pulling his deed, he has hurt many steel players and especially the young ones who never got to see the older guys play. For that I certainly have no respect for him.

Slim Heilpern · From: Aptos California, USA

Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Ive been looking for this video recently too but couldnt find it dissapointedly. Its even in a playlist but not there...

Roger Crawford · From: Griffin, GA USA

Unfortunately, Bill Ferguson’s YouTube channel was shut down by Michael Scott in the name of the Steel Guitar Hall Of Fame. It was a fantastic collection of live performances at the International Steel Guitar Convention held in St. Louis every Labor Day weekend. The videos were done with the full approval of DeWitt Scott (Scotty) and a copy of each video was given to Scotty at the end of the convention. Scotty had no problem with Bill posting these videos on YouTube. After Scotty’s death and in an effort to maintain an income from the Hall Of Fame, which by the way, is virtually nonexistent, Michael claimed copyright infringement and had the videos pulled and Bill’s YouTube channel removed. That collection represented more steel guitar artists and music than any other source and was a treasure for players of all ages and playing levels.

Dale Rottacker · From: Walla Walla Washington, USA

Lee Rider · From: Fort Bragg, California, USA

John Larson · From: Pennsyltucky, USA

Gary Spaeth · From: Wisconsin, USA

there's a killer version of route 66 by herby on yt. i download videos i like from yt in case they disappear.

Herb Steiner · From: Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064

I could never understand Michael Scott's "copyright infringement" argument, because the copyrights to songs are owned by the publisher and/or the songwriter. This is certainly well known by Google, the owner of YouTube. The Scott family possibly has some contractual agreement over the presentation of videos recorded at ISGC, but I bet they have no ownership of the copyrights to that many songs.

I know that many, if not most, of the players at ISGC insisted that no one, with the exception of Scotty and Bill Ferguson recording from the sound board, be allowed to record any of the onstage shows in order to control bootlegging.
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Roger Crawford · From: Griffin, GA USA

Herb, you are absolutely correct in that video recording was strictly forbidden except by Bill Ferguson’s crew located at the sound/video table. I was blessed to be a part of that crew for a long time, and to my knowledge there was never any issues between Bill and Scotty about posting those videos on YouTube. It was only after Scotty’s passing and the family loosing the income from the show that Michael, presumably in an effort to create an income from the virtually nonexistent HOF, that the copyright issue arose. We were of the same opinion as you as to who owns the copyright, but in an effort to cover their bases, the videos were pulled and Bill’s personal YouTube account was permanently removed.

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