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Topic: Music Man Amps |
Joseph Barlow
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2024 6:25 am
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I recently bought a Music Man 112 RP. I was wondering if anyone has used one for pedal steel and what you thought of it. The speaker in mine is Peavey Sheffield Triple X. I can’t find much info on these speakers and was thinking something else might be more friendly for pedal steel. I was also thinking of swapping my Blue Marvel out of my early Nashville 112 and see if that was an improvement. What do y’all think? Should I try that or look at something else like the TT12? Thanks for any advice that anyone has. |
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Robert Parent
From: Gillette, WY
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Posted 3 Dec 2024 8:25 am
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Hi,
I still have two Music Man amplifiers. One is a 100w 112RD with an EVM series II speaker. The second, is a 112 50w with a JBL.
They are very nice amps, but the 100w versions are a bit heavy. Have been using them since the early 80's. I like them much better than the Fender Twin which is a standard issue tube amp.
Robert |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 3 Dec 2024 8:50 am
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The Sheffield came in the later 6505, Bandit and other guitar amps. From the name, it's supposed to have a British flavor. Those were 1230 models. They also used a version of them in bass and sound reinforcement cabinets.
A good Peavey speaker for steel might be the 1203-8 or the 1201-8 assuming the MM needs an 8Ω speaker....something you need to pay attention to when considering the TT speakers, if they are 4Ω...same with the Blue Marvels.
I believe Celestion has a neo mag speaker that was used in some of the later Peavey steel amps too, but again the impedance may be different.
Ideal speaker would be the aforemntioned EV or the JBL K120 if you can find either that doesn't cost a fortune. |
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Dave Hopping
From: Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 3 Dec 2024 3:43 pm
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I also have 2 Music Man amps, a '79 210-65 bought new, and an '81 21HD-150. The 210 is hands down the best six-string amp I've had in 65 years of gigging, but it's just average for steel. The 212 has Eminence (Legend, IIRC) speakers, and sounds excellent for steel. I wouldn't hesitate to gig it.
Overall I think Music Man amps are very much underrated, although carrying one around is a bit of a workout. IMO the OP's RP is definitely worth doing a few speaker swaps to see what would happen. BTW if that RP's phaser setup is like my 212's, the speed control is a pull-pot that will give some cool cocked-wah sounds. |
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Dave Grafe
From: Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 3 Dec 2024 4:12 pm
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The Music Man circuits are somewhat comparable to SF Fender amps, warm tube response, clean enough to take pedals well, but when overdriven have a bit of a harsher edge than the Fenders. Very good tube amp for clean pedal steel IMHO, not so much for lap steel unless you're using an overdrive pedal to get your howl, the amp breakup is just not that friendly.
As for speakers, I'm a big proponent of seeing what can be done with what you've got before throwing money at an ever-elusive nirvana. The worst that can happen is you learn a bit more about speakers, your amp's eq, and what your hands can do tone wise. I'm a hardcore JBL guy, but the TT12 has been a pleasant surprise and a weight saver too. I purchased a TT15 cab but didn't care for the sound of the 15" speaker so loaded the cab with an 8-8-ohm K130 for serious stage duty and it has proven to be a great match with Quilter's TB202.
Hope this helps somehow. |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2024 3:47 pm
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I had several MM amps,, They are ok, but sounded more like really good SS amp, than a tube amp.. I was never a fan of "tube amps" with SS front ends.. They are lacking the warmth and richness of a good all tube amp.. just my opinion... _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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