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Topic: Just Bought a Bit of SGF History |
Bill McCloskey
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Posted 28 Apr 2024 11:11 am
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Won't get it for a few weeks yet, but I'm excited to have purchased b0b Lee's Williams D12 Crossover. The only one in the world. Williams made 12 Crossovers in total but this was the only D12. It has been called the most complicated steel ever made. Here is a recent pic and some pics from the SGF archive when b0b picked it up.
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Brad Bechtel
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 28 Apr 2024 11:30 am
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Congratulations! I hope you have a great time figuring out where all the music is hiding in that guitar. _________________ Brad’s Page of Steel
A web site devoted to acoustic & electric lap steel guitars |
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Tony Oresteen
From: Georgia, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 8:59 am
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Congratulations! I wouldn't have any idea on how to play it let alone tune it .
How much does it WEIGH? _________________ Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 9:13 am
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43 pounds in the case. Extended E9th and C6th. Nice thing is that it is effectively a 10x10 in a 5x5 footprint.
Correction: 55 lbs in the case.
Last edited by Bill McCloskey on 29 Apr 2024 3:36 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Larson
From: Pennsyltucky, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 9:44 am
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What's the copedant on that beast? _________________ Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for the upright. Give praise to the Lord with the harp, chant unto Him with the ten-stringed psaltery. Sing unto Him a new song, chant well unto Him with jubilation. For the word of the Lord is true, and all His works are in faithfulness. The Lord loveth mercy and judgement; the earth is full of the mercy of the Lord.
- Psalm 33:1-5 |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 10:30 am
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Standard Emmons. Typical ext E9 and C6 . I won't have the full copedent until I get it. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 11:42 am
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I've played that guitar. It's awesome. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 12:15 pm
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I'm particularly looking forward to only having to deal with 5 pedals. This should help bad feet and knees.
I should have it on Weds. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 3:36 pm
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Richard,
Did you play it when b0b owned it or when the current owner had it? |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 5:05 pm
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Bill McCloskey wrote: |
Richard,
Did you play it when b0b owned it or when the current owner had it? |
Bob brought it to one of the steel jams I put on in the 90's in the Bay Area. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Chris Templeton
From: The Green Mountain State
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 29 Apr 2024 8:00 pm
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bob did post the copedent but it is not set up currently the way bob had it set up. It arrives weds so I'll know more then. |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
From: Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2024 4:22 am
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Bill McCloskey wrote: |
43 pounds in the case. Extended E9th and C6th. Nice thing is that it is effectively a 10x10 in a 5x5 footprint.
Correction: 55 lbs in the case. |
That's still very light |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 30 Apr 2024 11:00 am
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delete: updated copedent below
Last edited by Bill McCloskey on 1 May 2024 7:08 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Marvin Born
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 30 Apr 2024 11:18 am Williams D12
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The blue ones are “rod splits” on 5 and 10, so Bb, B, C and C# are all in tune.
The red one on string 9 sets the feel stop on string 2. Then set string 9 lower on the string 9 split screw . |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 30 Apr 2024 11:52 am
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Thanks Marvin. Once I get it I may reach out for instruction on tuning the splits and the feel stop. I should have it tomorrow. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 1 May 2024 5:58 pm
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 1 May 2024 6:00 pm
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This thing sounds AMAZING. Different pickups for C6 and E9th. Ergonomically, so much easier to play C6 without having to shift positions. Rings like a bell. So happy. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 1 May 2024 7:07 pm
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Copedent. (I'll delete the incomplete one)
Last edited by Bill McCloskey on 2 May 2024 8:42 am; edited 4 times in total |
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Dan Kelly
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 2 May 2024 2:13 am
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Interesting looking pickup on the E9th neck. It looks like it is split and each side is angled somewhat. What is the story on that? _________________ blah, blah, blah.
Hey You Kids! Get Off My Lawn!
blah, blah, blah. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 2 May 2024 4:46 am
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Not sure. I'm going to reach out to Bill at Williams to learn more about those pickups. |
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Marvin Born
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 2 May 2024 5:13 am D12
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The pickup on E9 is a hunbucker with adjustable pole pieces for each string. (think of it as similar to Telonics 84 and X10 series). You can adjust the brightness or growl as desired for each string. I don't remember the brand but it was a common pickup brand when this guitar was built. It may not be original from the factory.
Look up the Telonics 84 or X10 series instructions, to get an idea of how to adjust it. It's best to adjust it over time, not all at once. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 2 May 2024 5:27 am
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Thanks Marvin. Absolutely love the guitar. You kept it in great shape. Probably the best sounding Steel I've owned. |
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Tucker Jackson
From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 2 May 2024 7:18 am
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I'm guessing that's a Tonealigner pickup on the E9 neck... which is part of the reason it sounds so good. |
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