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Topic: Extended length pedals on my Derby. |
Johnie King
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Posted 6 Feb 2024 8:55 pm |
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I know this subject has been discussed before but this is the first steel I’ve had in my shop with extended pedals an it’s a joy too play.
The Extended Derby pedals sure make for easy pedaling!!
You could pedal for hours in your sock feet.
Extended pedals might help are fellow steel players with neuropathy in their feet.
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2024 8:57 pm
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Standard derby pedals
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2024 9:06 pm
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Extended Derby pedals.
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2024 9:14 pm
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The black Derby pictured has the extended pedals.
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2024 9:29 pm
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Pictures from the forum on this subject.
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Mike DiAlesandro
From:
Kent, Ohio
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 1:20 pm Re: Extended length pedals on my Derby.
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"Johnie King"
Extended pedals might help our fellow steel players with neuropathy in their feet. |
That’s a great point you make Johnie. I have run into many players that have this issue. It sure is worth the effort to let them know about this. 👍 |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 9:17 pm
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Long pedals would be nice using boots with long sharp toes. But with the leverage ratio near doubled on pedal, With a heavy foot, Could cause more pressure on the cabinet, And cause more cabinet drop.
Another, Help one way, Hurt something else at same time, The problem when figuring leverages on a steel guitar. |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2024 9:21 pm
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| Thanks Mike yes for some of my pedal steel friends this definitely helps. |
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Dan Behringer
From:
Jerseyville, Illinois
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Posted 19 Feb 2024 5:22 pm
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Found this pic on Reverb and I thought it was an amazing idea. This Wheeler PSG has adjustable collars on the pedals to change the leverage.
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Tommy Mc
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Middlesex VT
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Posted 20 Feb 2024 6:36 am
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Where does one acquire these extended pedals for a Derby?
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1980 MSA Vintage XL S-10, 1975 Session 400
1972 Dobro model 66s
Derby SD-10
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Steve Mueller
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Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2024 11:40 am
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Another option - keep the same pedals and drill new hole for the connector 1/4" or so closer to the pedal bar. No expense and just as effective. Have had this done on all my steels. Works great!
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2016 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2015 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2023 Williams S12 4 x 5, Milkman Amps, 1974 Gibson Byrdland |
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chuck lemasters
From:
Jacksonburg, WV
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Posted 20 Feb 2024 2:21 pm
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I owned this guitar. I bought a piece of aluminum stock from Ace Home Center. I cut the pads off the end of the pedals, cut short pieces of the aluminum, and my Bro-in-law, an excellent welder, put them together. Those stubby pedals don’t work too well with size 12 shoes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4WMKWKctd8
Here is a video I was asked to play for using the Derby |
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Tommy Mc
From:
Middlesex VT
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Posted 22 Feb 2024 4:10 pm
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| Steve Mueller wrote: |
| Another option - keep the same pedals and drill new hole for the connector 1/4" or so closer to the pedal bar. No expense and just as effective. Have had this done on all my steels. Works great! |
How does that affect travel and pressure?
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1980 MSA Vintage XL S-10, 1975 Session 400
1972 Dobro model 66s
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Steve Mueller
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Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2024 7:40 am
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Tommy,
Full disclosure, I removed the pedals and sent them to Bill Rudolph to re-drill the pedal rod connector 1/4" closer to the pedal board. He recommended the 1/4" because that small amount is unlikely to require a change to the bell crank slot. After reinstalling the pedals, I just did minor tweaks tuning the pedals at the endplate and that was it. Easy.
To answer your question directly, less pressure/smoother pedal action, slightly more travel.
I have temperment comps on E9 1 and 7 on A pedal. The new pedal connection location removed any additional stiffness from having 2 raises and 2 lowers on one pedal. I had all pedals on both necks re-drilled as well as ordering my newer S12 that way. Smooth all around.
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2016 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2015 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2023 Williams S12 4 x 5, Milkman Amps, 1974 Gibson Byrdland
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John Hyland
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South Australia
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Posted 23 Feb 2024 1:10 pm
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| Tommy Mc wrote: |
| Steve Mueller wrote: |
| Another option - keep the same pedals and drill new hole for the connector 1/4" or so closer to the pedal bar. No expense and just as effective. Have had this done on all my steels. Works great! |
How does that affect travel and pressure? |
It’s all about the distance the rod connection point moves. Closer to the axle the whole pedal has to move further to get the same rod movement. More pedal movement means the stress of the load is spread out over the greater distance. (Ie easier) but too close to the axle is bad as the overal pedal movement will be extreme. That said the ¼ inch relocation would need to be very carefully drilled so the new hole is not part of the existing one. |
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Willie Sims
From:
PADUCAH, KY, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2024 2:27 pm
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| see if you can find my post about easy pedal extenders,you can save a lot money. |
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