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D. Scheindlin

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 7:08 am    
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I am a happy first-time Carter owner having purchased a nice S10 pro model from a forum member. It’s a great guitar but it’s missing one change that I’d like to add - the second string raise from D# to E on RKL. Does anyone know where I can get all the parts needed to add this… bell crank, dog bone, rod, nylon nut…

I found it on Steel Guitars of Canada web site but then I see a note that Al Briscoe closed it down.

Thanks for any guidance!
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 7:15 am    
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FWIW, you can use any similar pullkit from any guitar with 3/8" (?) Square cross shafts ! Then,if you find Carter parts you can restore its originality.
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D. Scheindlin

 

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Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 7:24 am    
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Thanks John. I was wondering about that. Will look into that as an option if I can’t find the real deal!
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Pat Chong

 

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New Mexico, USA
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 10:47 am    
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"Jonnie King" has some carter parts for sale under "For sale: Amps and Accessories." ......Pat.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 11:36 am    
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It looks like a lot of old guitar parts will be hard to find.
Till Mike Yahl gets his ranch work caught up, And brings SGP website back on line.

Somewhere on the forum there was something about SGP got all of Al Brisco's Carter parts.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 12:24 pm    
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Bobby D. Jones wrote:
It looks like a lot of old guitar parts will be hard to find.
Till Mike Yahl gets his ranch work caught up, And brings SGP website back on line.

Somewhere on the forum there was something about SGP got all of Al Brisco's Carter parts.


Barry Coker is another source. With Michael out of action, Barry could make a killing. I asked Michael if he could start making Carter parts, and he said no because parts were still available from Brisco. That's no longer the case. Perfect opportunity for Barry. If I'm not mistaken, I think Barry has already made some Carter parts for someone.
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Paul Higgins

 

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Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 12:34 pm    
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Hi Forgive me for butting in but..I am looking for rod
for carter But dont know where to begin.Im for the UK and all rods over here are in metric.

I too have looked on brisco.but I notice that someone said they have closed down,but looking on the site it just a list and I havent got a clue I dont know where to begin
A long storly cut short.. I had to change my pedals over from left to right because I couldent use my left foot
but now it wants changing back.

there was not problem changing them over cause I just cut the rods to length and put a thred on the end
can anyone help remembering I in the UK
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 12:39 pm    
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Al Brisco has indeed closed up shop and sold all parts, rumored to be to Michael Yahl. Michael had to close up shop for a while to deal with personal life duties. Hopefully he can come back. He's one of the good guys.
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 12:43 pm    
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Wayne Brown is working towards making/providing Carter parts. I don't know his time frame or what-all he will or won't be making.

https://www.outwestcountry.ca/
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Wayne Brown


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Bassano, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 2:54 pm     steel guitar parts
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Actually we just picked up a brand new milling machine today. We already make the Carter dog bones and have a lot in stock. We can also make replacement carter rods. Tuning nuts that is a different story. I'm still trying to source those. We are also in the middle of finishing up some Carter Bell cranks/rod pullers as well. We here at Outwest are gearing up to manufacture a lot of different parts for different guitars. That have been orphaned. We will be manufacturing a whole list of parts from cross shafts,bell cranks, rods, knee levers and on and on. Please if you need something and are not sure contact me as there is to much to list. But the carter parts etc. please see our new web site under carter parts. or if you wish PM, call or text me
thanks
Wayne
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D. Scheindlin

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 17 Dec 2023 7:43 pm    
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Thanks - appreciate all the info.
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Chris Brooks

 

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Providence, Rhode Island
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 6:31 am    
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Thanks for your efforts, Wayne. We have to keep these instruments alive.
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 7:40 am    
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Good news Wayne. Thank you.
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Paul Higgins

 

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Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 11:52 am    
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Thank you for all the infomation I have made a note of
Wayne web site and will be contacting then in the new year
for rods..

All I need now is what lenth are the rods for A pedal
B pedal and C pedal for (carter steel ) if ant members are prepared to measure them for me

All the info was Great Thank you for all members
Thank you
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 11:59 am    
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Here is Wayne's system for that so that you don't need to measure.

https://www.outwestcountry.ca/product/replacement-pull-rods/604
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Paul Higgins

 

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United Kingdom
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 1:54 pm    
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Thank you Jon Light that is most helpfel

am I reading the charts rightIs it

P1 = "27 1/8.....

P2 string 3 = "24 3/4 string 6 = "23 3/8

P3 = "22 3/8
and they are in inches
Thank you for you help
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 2:33 pm    
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Actually, I apologize because I didn't look at that very thoroughly. I thought all you needed to tell Wayne was "I need a rod for P1" but I see that it might be more involved. Rather than say anything more I'll just suggest that either you make sure you have a firm grasp -or- have a conversation with Wayne before ordering so that you can both be certain you are working with the same understanding.
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Paul Higgins

 

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Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 4:09 pm    
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HI Jon
I emailed Wayne He replied straight a way so I think we are on the right track
I give him the same measurement I sent you he said about a step doen on B pedal..At this moment I carnt remember off hand what did..As far as I remember I set it up on the right side as it was on the left
He also said he would measure then for me
Ill look tommorow it a bit late to do it now hear in the the UK its gone midnight
Thank again for all you help
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Wayne Brown


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Bassano, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 18 Dec 2023 5:49 pm     Steel Guitar Parts
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The B pedal has 2 different ways to have rods on those Carters. If it does not have the gear down then the rods are the same length. If it does have the gear down (extra Cross shaft) then there are to different rods lengths.
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wayne
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Wayne Brown


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Bassano, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 8:58 am     Steel Guitar Parts
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UPDATE
Lori just went through the Carter pages and update the replacement rods. You just click on what size you need. You can also confirm with the photograph.
On another note if you are ordering small parts as well, if those do not hit the 60.00 CAD threshold for free shipping.The web site loves to roll that shipping on top of everything else. The easiest way is to contact us directly and we can combine the correct shipping. And I thank Doniel for finding that issue
thanks
wayne
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Tucker Jackson

 

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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 9:37 am    
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That's fantastic Wayne! Thanks for taking care of us with these parts.

And I'll remind American customers that the $60 CAD for free shipping works out to only about $45 USD (at today's exchange rate). So it's good deal!
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Paul Higgins

 

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United Kingdom
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 10:43 am     Re: Steel Guitar Parts
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Wayne Brown wrote:
The B pedal has 2 different ways to have rods on those Carters. If it does not have the step down then the rods are the same length. If it does have the step down (extra Cross shaft) then there are to different rods lengths.
Thanks
wayne

Hi The last two post lost me !
I have checked my steel ( carter ) to see if there is a step down (I dont know if there was before I altered it from left to right) that was before the stroke.
But Ive got
2 rods on A pedal, 2 on B pedal, and 2 on C pedal,
so thats make 6 rods need
Thanks Paul
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 11:24 am    
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Probably meaning what is commonly called a gear down mechanism with a few more pieces of linkage and used to even out the timing on some guitars like on strings 3 and 6.


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Wayne Brown


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Bassano, Alberta, Canada
Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 11:34 am     Steel Guitar Parts
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Sorry I did get that wrong it is in fact called a Gear down not a step down...Thanks Jerry
I have edited my posts
thanks
wayne
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Paul Higgins

 

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Post  Posted 20 Dec 2023 1:43 pm    
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[quote="Jerry Overstreet"]Probably meaning what is commonly called a gear down mechanism with a few more pieces of linkage and used to even out the timing on some guitars like on strings 3 and 6.
Thank you for the explainition But I dont think i have that one my guitar Thanks Paul
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