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Larry Hopkins


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2023 5:23 pm    
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Was wondering on the third string g#.will a .11 gauge stretch easier than a .12 gauge I keep breaking the .11 put a .12 on and it tunes up and plays fine ,not much different in tone.it breaks the .11 right on the changer finger. Question
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Chris Templeton


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The Green Mountain State
Post  Posted 29 Nov 2023 6:36 pm    
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Sid Hudson's Live Steel Strings has .0115s, and are a great compromise. I highly recommend:
https://www.lsstrings.com
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 29 Nov 2023 7:28 pm    
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Yes, it takes more tension to tune a 12 to the same note as an 11 due to it's larger mass.

Several players use 12...probably just as many use 11 or 11 ½ with the PG designation which means they are specific to pedal steel guitars.

I like 12's for most of my guitars, but I will use whatever's in the seat compartment at the time.
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K Maul


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Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2023 5:21 am    
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Interesting how people started using 11s instead of 10s for the same reason but modern designs make it possible now to use a heavier string. I still use 11s on most of my steels but will start changing over to 12s and see how it goes.
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Larry Hopkins


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Post  Posted 30 Nov 2023 7:12 am     String
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Thanks guys
Larry
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Larry Allen


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Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii
Post  Posted 30 Nov 2023 11:19 am     G#
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I have used Cobras then NYXLs .012 for years.. no breakage (Excel). Balances volume and tone better , .when I used .011s they would break at the bridge from the stretching… Shocked
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John Hyland

 

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South Australia
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2023 12:42 pm    
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Going in the other direction I seem to remember my fist PSG had a .009.
Neededless to say but It was pretty thin sounding.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2023 9:49 pm    
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It is a rule of physics. It takes less pressure to move a smaller string to desired note, But the string must be pulled further to reach the note.
It takes more pressure to move a larger string to desired note, But the larger string does not have to travel as far to reach the desired note.

If you do the math a .012 has about 14 percent more area in the diameter of the string than a .011 does.

Tone difference seems to be the ear that hears it.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 3 Dec 2023 2:49 pm    
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John references the .009 gauge from years gone by. When I first started on PSG late 70s a .010 was not unusual for the 3rd in an E9 set....actually quite common. I think over the years steel guitar tone graduated toward a thicker, fatter sound. I began using .011's shortly after beginning and went to .012s sometime a few years later and still prefer them today but 11s or 11.5s are certainly adequate.
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