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Topic: Anyone seen this tuning? |
Andy DePaule
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Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 16 Jul 2023 9:34 pm |
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Anyone seen this tuning?
Seems a little like C Diatonic, but not that.
The top 4 strings are just like C6/Am7.
My friend Ralph Novak, a well known luthier had built a simple 8 string lap steel using a bass pickup he had around his workshop.
Told me he tuned it in thirds. It has most of the chords from the C or G scale on any 3 or 4 string tight grip. I'm certainly going to give it a try. Would be easy to retune from a 6th tuning by just lowering the 4 bottom strings, some a whole tone and some just 1/2 tone.
From the bottom up... G B D F A C E G  
Ralph invented the Fan Fret system that some player are crazy about. He is also quite a good musician too. Not afraid to try new ideas. This is his web site:
https://novaxguitars.com/info/history.html
http://www.novaxguitars.com
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Allan Revich
From:
Victoria, BC
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Posted 16 Jul 2023 9:55 pm
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I experimented with a 7 string version of that tuning for a while.
GBDFACE
There are a ton of useful chord combinations n there.
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Current Tunings:
6 String | G – G B D G B D
7 String | G6 – e G B D G B D (re-entrant)
https://papadafoe.com/lap-steel-tuning-database |
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Joe A. Roberts
From:
Seoul, South Korea
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 7:31 am
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Last edited by Joe A. Roberts on 17 Jul 2023 8:58 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 8:36 am
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It’s a true G13th chord tuning, skipping every other note of a mixolydian scale.
R-3-5-b7-9-11-13-R
I can see great possibilities. Thanks for posting. |
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Fred
From:
Amesbury, MA
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 9:30 am
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It's a C scale in thirds. All the diatonic chords in a major scale are there. I fooled around with it a long time ago because I wanted more chords without a lot of bar movement.
I gave up on it because there are no inversions without a lot of movement. And I'd rather have more dominant chords if possible.
I ended up extending the Leavitt tuning to eight strings. That worked for me but to each his own. |
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Rob Fenton
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 12:24 pm
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I gave this a try once and there are a lot of chord possibilities, but yes, as mentioned, few inversions.
It could work for someone who doesn’t mind using equal temperament. I prefer the sound of just intonation, but the tuning becomes quite spread out, with about 22 cents difference between the 2 G strings.
I too ended up using Leavitt on 8 strings, with an F added on the top, and a reentrant Eb on the bottom. |
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Cody Farwell
From:
Sunland, CA
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 2:22 pm
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That's the 'G11' tuning but with an added G on top and on bottom. It's used in a lot of old Hawaiian music.
Lovey Lui played this tuning
https://youtu.be/f8_uzOTaWT4 |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 3:13 pm
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Looks like you can call it whatever you want to call it. 🥴
Nice example there, Cody. |
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Joe A. Roberts
From:
Seoul, South Korea
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Posted 17 Jul 2023 9:29 pm
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Tim Toberer
From:
Nebraska, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2023 7:51 am
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The tone on this is wild! I don't know what they were doing back in the day to get these tones? Probably A combination of many unintended things, but I just love it. Cool tuning! |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 21 Jul 2023 1:53 pm Thanks guys...
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Thanks guys...
Guess this tuning was only new to me.
I enjoyed reading through all the posts.
Best wishes,
Andy
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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