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Samuel Phillippe


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Douglas Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2023 6:34 am    
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It has been a little over a year now since I purchased my Attic stored BMI.
It underwent major overahauls, thanks to forum members advice and instructions. It has been playing good with a couple tuning Stability issues.

The other day, not having much to do, I bought some lighter fluid and cleaning brushes and decided to deep claen and oil things........guess what.....it HELPS.

New strings were put in place and tuned. What a difference. the minor tuning issues were gone and the knee and pedal levers work better.

So to my fellow newbies my advice is to do a deep clean of your new used guitar and enjoy.

Sam
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Frank Freniere


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The First Coast
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2023 8:48 am    
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Good advice, Samuel.

Can you describe how you do your deep clean routine? Thanks in advance.
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2023 9:48 pm    
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Some pedal steel guitars have been around for 50 years. Some just won't clean up with lighter fluid, Naptha or acetone. It is scary what you may find, If you tear the changer down.

Here is a picture of changer parts from a MSA Classic built about 1973. It has some type of grease in it that turned brown and hard like dried paint. (The finger on the right you can see it) An Ultra Sonic cleaner would not remove it. I had to use a knife to scrape and remove the heavy material, And then steel wool to remove everything to clean metal bright metal.




Ready to be reinstalled.
After cleaning the guitars E9th and C6th changers the guitar tuned as it should without problems.
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Samuel Phillippe


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Douglas Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jun 2023 3:48 pm    
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Frank Freniere wrote:
Good advice, Samuel.

Can you describe how you do your deep clean routine? Thanks in advance.


Frank, I completly tore it down and apart. Needed some hard scraping in the changer area.
Not hard to do BUT take pictures and make notes as you dig in. I even took the pedal assemblies apart to degrease them better. Take your time, it's worth it if yours is old (like mine) and shows signs of never being cleaned but simply oiled and/or greased.

I used lighter fluid because it is cheap and readily available. Beware of using some degreasers.
Check cleaning history postings you will find a volume of advice.

Good luck and keep playing.

Sam
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Frank Freniere


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The First Coast
Post  Posted 12 Jun 2023 1:16 pm    
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Ah I get it now, Sam - a complete teardown - thanks.

I’m gonna stick with Greg Cutshaw’s Triflow maintenance protocol for now - I have a fairly new Zum Encore in a windy, sandy environment.
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Samuel Phillippe


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Douglas Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jun 2023 11:47 am    
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Frank Freniere wrote:
Ah I get it now, Sam - a complete teardown - thanks.

I’m gonna stick with Greg Cutshaw’s Triflow maintenance protocol for now - I have a fairly new Zum Encore in a windy, sandy environment.


Frank, Being fairly new it might not be gummed like my ATTIC stored old timer was. I had sprayed it with zippo and oiled it before, it played ok and stayed in tune somewhat....that's why the deep clean. I could have lived with it the way it wAS before the deep clean but had time on my hands so tore it apart. good learning lesson on how things went together and worked.

Good luck and keep playing

Sam
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Bobby D. Jones

 

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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jun 2023 3:33 pm    
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If you look at the above pictures, I posted. The Key Ring on the string is to keep the fingers from getting mixed up.
The fingers came out 1 thru 10, And went back in 1 thru 10. With all parts, Spacers and Center Support in same location when reassembled.
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