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Topic: is there common preferred rodding chart? |
Steven Golding
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New York, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2023 7:06 am |
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Is there a standardized or common rodding pattern people prefer?
I have looked at the chart provided on Steelguitar.com. The pattern the site suggests is not the same on the guitar I use regularly. Just curious if it's a feel thing. I mapped out this chart and will try it next.
Full disclosure I'm in the process of converting a new guitar from Day to Eommons, I have already re-installed the rods, and they fit however, there are tunning issues on the return, especially on strings 4 and 5, as you can imagine with all the changes. I think the issue is with were I situated the rods in the changer and bell cranks.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 18 Apr 2023 10:28 am
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There is no common or universal rodding chart. I have a couple of charts for different brands and they are not the same. Number of slots or holes on the pullers are one big difference. The changer finger holes used also differ.
On strings that are both raised and lowered, such as common changes on string 4 the lower returning sharp is common and called "hysteresis". The Franklin I owned had tunable compensators to neutralize hysteresis. |
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Steven Golding
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New York, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2023 11:23 am
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Thank you for the response.
I just tried the rod chart that's listed on steelguitar.com. It seems to work, the tension is a little off compared to my other steel. But at least it's coming back in tune. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2023 8:55 pm
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On todays modern guitars being built, Most companies have rodding charts for Their guitars. With different changers and number of holes in bell cranks, There is no chart that fits all.
When changing a guitar from Day to Emmons, Or Emmons to Day If the guitar is playing proper with the present set up.
Take pictures of pedals and levers linkage, That changes have to be made to. Going from Emmons to Day. With a card and tape, I write the C pedals Changer and Bell Crank holes number on the A pedal rods and the A pedal on C pedal rods. And the same for D and F knee levers, Where you are changing from raises to lowers. That allows moving rods and getting everything in the right holes on first try.
Just taking rods out can make for a lot of extra hook and try holes settings, Getting the pulls right.
Good Luck getting the guitar set up proper. |
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Gordy Rex
From:
Southport, NC
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Posted 20 Apr 2023 9:28 am Guitar set up
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You might want to watch and learn from Mickey Adams video, he shows you how find the right holes or slots for your set up… plus so much more, this info fine tunes your rodding chart..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GcFVpTzY0I&t=1989s
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Gordy Rex
Current guitar '78 Rosewood Emmons PP 8 X 6, La Grande II..8X8... |
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