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Topic: semitone feel stop on pedal 7? |
Andrew Frost
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Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 24 Apr 2023 10:21 am |
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Thinking about adding a rod to pedal 7 to get a semitone feel stop at the half way point...
On C6, that pedal in full swing generally brings A&C on string 4&3 up a full tone to B&D.
There's a couple approaches I'm contemplating.
If both strings raised up to A# & C# with that feel stop, it'd be a very useful diminished voicing up through the higher register, particularly if the left foot is already close to the volume pedal. It'd work beautifully w P8 too..
Another approach would be to only raise C -> C# on the feel stop, before the A string starts moving and both strings then travel up to B&D. This would yield more possibilities I think.
I do use a personalized A6 copedent but for intents and purposes it moves in similar ways to C6.
I've noticed Herb Remington had the full tone "pedal 7" type change on his set up, and right beside it, on an adjacent pedal, he had the same strings moving up just a semitone like I'm thinking about doing with the feel stop. This was on his A6 set up.
Not sure on the nuances of this, but it looks like Paul Franklin has a half tone stop on his pedal 7 that raises C to C# before both A&C travel to B&D...
Haven't got the guitar up on the bench yet, but thinking this might be a useful thing.
Open to hearing other's thoughts here.
cheers
Andy |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 24 Apr 2023 11:44 am
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I don't know how current this is (from a b0b.com link).
But if we look at P8 which I'm guessing does what the P7 that you saw does, I'm reading that as a split tune with the RKL lever rather than a feeler stop.
I'm skeptical of feeler stops on pedals (but I have never tried it). I am also thinking that getting two strings in tune with one half-stop would be a bit of a trick. Despite being adjacent strings, both raising full steps, gauge & tension make for some tricky physics.
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 24 Apr 2023 12:56 pm
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| I raise both Cs to C# on RKR, and both As to Bb on LKL. When used together you a diminished chord and when added to pedals 5+6 you get a major chord. By releasing one lever or the other you have a minor or dominant 7. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 24 Apr 2023 1:04 pm
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I've tried feel stops on pedals on both my Carter and a Williams. Did not work very well. Your knee is much more sensitive to a feel stop as opposed to trying to feel it [quickly] through your shoes. I couldn't feel them at all.
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Andrew Frost
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Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 26 Apr 2023 1:24 pm
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Thanks for the replies. After some tinkering I have opted to keep things as they are. I feel that the P7 character is not dissimilar to the A pedal on an E neck, in that it really benefits from having a smooth sweep and a half stop in there would impede the quality of that change.
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both raising full steps, gauge & tension make for some tricky physics.
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Yes I agree Jon. Both strings actually do travel in pretty close parallel on my guitar. The inspiration for this experiment came from half pedalling on 7.
I'm going to keep things as they are and work on that technique more... |
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Dennis Montgomery
From:
Western Washington
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 26 Apr 2023 5:20 pm
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interested in this mechanism you speak of Dennis. Is it a proprietary Mullen thing or would it fit on other guitars?
There is also one mentioned in another thread, made by Schild I think- possibly a different builder, European though... |
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Dennis Montgomery
From:
Western Washington
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