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Topic: Playing Around With Copedent Ideas (Updated) |
Paul Hutzler
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Seattle, Wa
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Posted 25 Feb 2023 10:31 pm |
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1. Bye bye BC pedal minor chord -- I did away with the C pedal (the minor chord pedal when using BC). I did want to keep the C pedal's 4th string change-- the E to F# raise. So I put it on the LKV. When I step on A and B, I can raise my knee and hit LKV to get the same notes that I got with the BC pedal minor chord. I like it because the 4 string E to F# seems more useful when its not tied to the B to C# change like it is on the stock C pedal.
2. 6th String Split tuning on C pedal - C pedal now lowers 6th string G# to F# or if I step on BC together, I get a minor chord in the first position. This works great. Rock the pedals and the b3 on the 6th string changes to a 2 or a 4. Its very intuitive.
3. Getting rid of the chromatic notes on strings 9 and 7 -- This is maybe my weirdest change. The RKL lowers 7th string F# to E and 9th string from D# all the way down to B. (By the way, I tune my 9th string to D#.) With the RKL lever engaged, strings 10, 9 ,8, 7 are B, B, E, E in the first position.
The reason I'm doing this is I want to "country blues pick" (aka travis pick) the pedal steel and this change will be helpful in that maybe. It gets rid of the lower chromatic strings on 9 and 7 that are hard to work around when I'm plucking the bass notes back and forth in the first position. I haven't fully explored if but so far I like it. It gives cool new sounds in almost every position. Also that 2 step drop on the 9th string from D# to B gives a cool boo-wah sound.
4. That's about it that's different or interesting. There's also a standard split tuning on the 6th string so I can get a G note with the LKR and B pedal engaged. Thanks for looking.
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Carter S-10, Shobud S-10, Shobud Pro II D-10, Supro 8 String Lap Steel, Regal Black Lightening Dobro, and Excel D-10
Last edited by Paul Hutzler on 1 Mar 2023 10:43 am; edited 5 times in total |
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 26 Feb 2023 11:06 am
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| 3. Getting rid of the chromatic notes on strings 9 and 7 -- This is maybe my weirdest change. The LKL lowers 7th string F# to E and 9th string from D# all the way down to B. (By the way, I tune my 9th string to D#.) With the LKL lever engaged, strings 10, 9 ,8, 7 are B, B, E, E in the first position. |
I think you meant to say RKL.
This is pretty radical! Good luck. |
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Paul Hutzler
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Seattle, Wa
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Posted 26 Feb 2023 4:05 pm
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Good catch, Fred. I fixed the typo. And thanks for having a look at my weirdo copedent. 
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Paul Hutzler
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 28 Feb 2023 9:13 pm
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this is what I was trying to do by dropping the the 9th and 7th strings to B and E.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PinIPbX4neo
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Carter S-10, Shobud S-10, Shobud Pro II D-10, Supro 8 String Lap Steel, Regal Black Lightening Dobro, and Excel D-10 |
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Marty Broussard
From:
Broussard, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2023 1:58 am
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The LKV functionality has me thinking….thanks for sharing.
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Former steel guitarist for Tracy Byrd & The Byrd Dawgs, Mark Chesnut & The New South Band, Mark Nesler & Texas Tradition, Wayne Toups & ZydeCajun, Belton Richard & The Musical Aces
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Paul Hutzler
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 1 Mar 2023 10:42 am
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Cool Marty. I think the E to F# change on a lever independent of the B to C# change works great. Hit the lever with the AB pedals and you've got the old BC pedals minor chord. Let me know what you think if you try it out.
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Carter S-10, Shobud S-10, Shobud Pro II D-10, Supro 8 String Lap Steel, Regal Black Lightening Dobro, and Excel D-10 |
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Carl Bergman
From:
Närpes, Finland
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Posted 7 Mar 2023 1:52 pm
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| I tried it today, on LKV, and liked it very much instantly. |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2023 4:54 pm
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A friend of mine has E->F# on LKV. He’s played pro for 30 years. I have F#->G on that lever. I have played in my own room for 6 years. But I love that G lever and it stays.
I think since you have ditched your C pedal, then putting E->F# on LKV is a good idea, and maybe more necessary for you than F#->G.
I am not sure I understand the purpose of the G split with B/LKR, since it is combined with that D#. |
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Larry Allen
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Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii
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Posted 15 Mar 2023 11:07 am Coped
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Interesting setup! I’m also a Chet/Merle picker and set up my steels like this 30 years ago.. 
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