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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 5:35 pm    
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I'm looking for a D8 to play Hawaiian music, will be tuned to Jules Ah See C13 and E13.

I found a nice Canopus D8 single pickups and wonder if it would be the perfect guitar for this or I should wait for a stringmaster?

I add a Dual Pro in the past and I liked the tone but not the configuration, I prefer a Stringmaster style and the Canopus look fine for this aspect, I just wonder if the tone and construction is as good or better than Fender. Id like to have a fat tone, a little like Jerry Byrd.
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 6:39 pm    
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Oups I just bought this one! I will see by myself!

https://reverb.com/ca/item/63213309-canopus-ys-8d-11-15
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Bill Sinclair


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 6:55 pm    
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Very nice looking D8! Looking forward to your assessment.
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Jim Mckay

 

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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 9:27 pm    
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Hi Jean-Sebastien.
I own one of these guitars. I find the layout great and its my favorite guitar to play out with.
However, I prefer the tone range on my fender stringmaster. That aside they are a very good guitar and very reliable mechanically. I'm sure you will be pleased with this guitar. Very Happy
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 10:10 pm    
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I have a Canopus D8 that I bought on Ebay about 18-20 years ago.......I also have several D8 Stringmasters.....

The Canopus outshines The Fenders IMO.....if you're looking for a rich, fat tone,....that goes to the Canopus.....yes, the Stringmasters have more of a variety of sound & tone,.....but for what I play (I'm a home player) I like the richness of the Canopus.....it is built well and has a piano-like finish.....

I was good friends with the late Jody Carver and brought the Canopus up to his house where I once spent a weekend hanging with him......he loved the Canopus, so much so that he contacted the company in Japan to purchase one...funny story.....the owner builder, Yasu, told Jody "It will cost you more than you think".....and Jody said to me "that's some salesman!".....anyhow the guitar at that time was about $3k......when I bought mine on Ebay, very few people were following it and I got it for $585.00.....but right after the auction a few people contacted me offering double what I paid for it......I really didn't know much about the Canpus but I saw Leonard T. Zinn playing one in the Hawaiian room in St. Louis....it belonged to one of the Hawaiian guys.....Hawaiian players seemed to like the Canopus and you really didn't see them outside of Hawaii and even then not that much.....so I went for it.....let us know what you think......I'm sure I have a pic of Jody with it.....I'll have to look for it......meanwhile here's mine.....













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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2022 11:37 pm    
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That’s a beautiful guitar Howard!

I’m really looking more for a big fat tone than tonal range so Im pretty sure I will love the Canopus. I will make a review and videos when I will get it!
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Jim Mckay

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 12:11 am    
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This is a recording that I posted on here some time ago. "Stardust"
This was recorded on my Canopus D8

https://soundcloud.com/jimjam1952/stardust
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 12:23 am    
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That’s great Jim! I think you have the double pickups version? Have you compared the 2 versions?
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Jim Mckay

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 12:41 am    
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier wrote:
That’s great Jim! I think you have the double pickups version? Have you compared the 2 versions?

Yes I have the double pickups and no I have only played this one.

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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 1:37 am    
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Nice guitar!
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Tom Snook

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 3:58 am    
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Beautiful guitar Jean Sebastien,Barney Isaacs played a double neck single pickup blonde finish Canopus toward the end of his career. It's probably the same guitar L.T.Zinn played in the Hawaiian room. I'm sure you've seen the Spectrum Hawaii video.
Aloha
P.S. Jean Sebastien are you like me and listen almost exclusively to old Hawaiian music all day everyday? I can't get enough Razz
Aloha
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Nic Neufeld


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 5:10 am    
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A '57 mid-scale Stringmaster T8 was my first "real" steel guitar. I still like it, but I wouldn't say it has a fat/full tone compared to other guitars, even with the pickups on full blast in serial mode, which is where I always kept it. Canopus seemed to be really popular in Hawaii in the 90s or thereabouts. I've never played one but a lot of players seemed to like them!

Let us know what you think!
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Tom Snook

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 5:51 am    
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Let's hear it!
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 7:51 am    
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Tom Snook wrote:
a double neck single pickup blonde finish Canopus toward the end of his career. It's probably the same guitar L.T.Zinn played in the Hawaiian room.


It was a blonde Canopus that L.T. Zinn played when I saw him......
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Tom Snook

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 8:11 am    
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I'm sure there's a video on YouTube of L.T.playing Barney's Canopus. Probably in St.Louis, what a coincidence Winking
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Tony Oresteen


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 8:52 am    
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The Canopus has a Sho-Bud history.

Yas Kamiya worked at the Sho-Bud factory in Nashville in the 1970s for about 12 years. In 1986 he returned to Japan to make Canopus Hawaiian steel guitars at Shimo Kitazawa,Tokyo.
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Dana Blodgett

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 11:47 am     Canapés
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I’m pretty sure you’ll like it, I’ ve heard a few being played by some local Hawaiians down in Honolulu area
And they sound really good to me…pickups look similar to old Sho~Buds!
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Levi Gemmell

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 1:23 pm    
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It's great to see a fresh thread on these guitars. There's another blonde Canopus for sale out of Japan on Reverb at the moment, CAD $1800.

I agree that they have a full, rich tone. I sold my Stringmaster last year and downsized to a John Allison S-8 styled after a Stringmaster, but I'd love to know how those Canopus guitars feel!

There are a couple of videos on YouTube with Casey Olsen and Ed Punua playing them. I would also love to know if Casey recorded with the Canopus on some older Hiram Olsen Trio tapes, if anyone knows?

Jim:
Great to hear your playing again, I believe that must be the same recording as on one of those CDs you sent to me?
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Jim Mckay

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 1:56 pm    
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Levi Gemmell wrote:


Jim:
Great to hear your playing again, I believe that must be the same recording as on one of those CDs you sent to me?

Hi Levi.
No "Stardust" is not on my CDs.
"He-Aloha-No-O- Honolulu" on my CD "Steel From The South Pacific" is played on the Canopus along with "Hana"
Other numbers on Stringmaster T8
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 4:56 pm    
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Tom Snook wrote:
Beautiful guitar Jean Sebastien,Barney Isaacs played a double neck single pickup blonde finish Canopus toward the end of his career. It's probably the same guitar L.T.Zinn played in the Hawaiian room. I'm sure you've seen the Spectrum Hawaii video.
Aloha
P.S. Jean Sebastien are you like me and listen almost exclusively to old Hawaiian music all day everyday? I can't get enough Razz
Aloha


Nice to have the same guitar as Barney Isaacs, feel like a safe choice!

I didn't see the Spectrum Hawaii video, can you please give me the link? thanks!

In fact I listen to old music everyday all day but not just Hawaiian. I listen to classic country, 40-50s swing and western swing also but I listen to the Tapa Room tapes almost everyday, I'm crazy about it!
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Tony Oresteen


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 7:03 pm    
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What is the scale of the Canopus steel guitars?
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 9:31 pm    
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I don't know! Look like a short scale to me so I guess 22.5 but if its 24.5 its fine for me too, I love both.

I will measure it when receive and let you know!
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Jim Mckay

 

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Post  Posted 15 Dec 2022 9:46 pm    
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Tony Oresteen wrote:
What is the scale of the Canopus steel guitars?

My guitar pictured in previous post above is 22.5 inches. I don't know if they come in any other length scale. Or at least I haven't seen any.
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Tom Snook

 

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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2022 3:08 am    
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Crying or Very sad I don't know how to create a link. Just search Barney Isaacs on you tube it's probably the first video that comes up.I was very lucky to have lived in Waikiki for a while when Jerry and Barney were still alive, even took lessons from Jerry and spoke many times with Barney at Halekulani.Those were the days my friend.
Aloha
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Charlie Hansen


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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2022 7:38 am    
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Barney Isaacs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJdOcHaHltk
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