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Topic: What is the simplist 10 string c6 copedant |
Jim Trantham
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Wyoming, USA
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Posted 13 Oct 2022 5:24 pm |
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What is the “simplist” 10 string c6 copedant for a beginner… I’ve looked at Franklins, Days, Emmons etc…. Am confused by all the differences!!
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2022 6:29 am
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For decades many D-10s were made with only one C6th lever (C to B). It was very standardized because most working players didn't need to play C6th much (except in Texas).
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John Poston
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Albuquerque, NM, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2022 6:50 am
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| Interesting point b0b. |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 14 Oct 2022 6:55 am
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| I recently had to restore an old D-10 to operating condition for a client. It had only one lever on C6, with the bellcrank lined up with the third string, but it was missing the rod. I wasn't sure if I should hook it up as a raise or a lower. Thanks, b0b, for answering my question (and the C > B is what I did choose). |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 14 Oct 2022 10:14 am
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the simplest or most "basic" copedent would be the one used in Buddy's 'Basic C6' course
if you've got more pedals/levers to play with, you could add pedal 4 (As to B) or Buddy would sometimes raise E to F on that pedal (combine that with a whole tone raise on string 10 and you've got a great "minor version" of pedal 5). other guys do a "reverse pedal 6" by raising the low E and lowering the one on top.
left knee levers would raise/lower A a half-step. if you've got a vertical on the left knee, I recommend raising As on the vertical and raising C to D (strings 3 & 7) on lkr
tuning the top string to G or D comes down to personal preference. each has its advantages but most guys seem to tune D, following Buddy's lead (though he got it from Bobby Black  )
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Aaron Clinton
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Calgary, AB
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Posted 14 Oct 2022 6:39 pm
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I can live without the g to g# raise on pedal 5 but “need” everything else.
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 15 Oct 2022 6:45 am
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My first-ever 'pro' guitar was a new ZB S-10. It was in the store (Eric Snowball's shop in Maidstone - the first dealer to import pedal steels to the UK - with five pedals and one knee-lever.
It's clear to me now that this has to have been built as a C6 guitar. Gordon Huntley switched it to E9 and, to my shame and regret, I can't recall if the 'extra' two pedals were even hooked up.
This supports b0b's assertion that early-C6 guitars were usually 5+1.
I soon traded up to a ZB D10. Here's the S-10; a nice dark red-and-maple. That's Billy Bremner (ex-Rockpile) on my left.
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 15 Oct 2022 9:29 am
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I have an early Madison D-10 Sho Bud permanent with 6 pedals and no knees. The first three pedals are pretty standard E9 pedals A,B and C (though not quite standard). The other 3 pedals work the C6 neck:
Pedal 4 raises 1 and lowers 5.
Pedal 5 raises 2 and lowers 6.
Pedal 6 raises 3 and 4.
Doesn't get much simpler than that, but it works.
Dave |
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