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Topic: Amp Simulator Pedals (UA, Milkman, Strymon) |
Jacob Hamm
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Colorado Springs, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2022 8:59 am |
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I am learning pedal steel and loving it so far, and currently I am playing through a Fender GTX100 at home which does a pretty darn good job with my Stage One. I am looking at possibly gigging in the future and was curious how many of you guys have tried these new amp modeling pedals with your steel. Some of the options are:
Milkman the Amp (50 or 100)
UA Dream (Fender Deluxe model)
Strymon Irridum
I am hoping to create a very simple pedalboard & amp setup that I can use for country Telecaster and Pedal Steel. I am thinking "the amp 50" might be the best bet but has anyone tried the others and just went direct into the PA? Did you have enough clean headroom?
My alternative would be getting a Tonemaster Delux Reverb or saving forever to get a tube pedal steel amp... Thanks for you thoughts in advance. |
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Chris Tarrow
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Maplewood, NJ
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Posted 22 Aug 2022 11:42 am
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| Alternatively keep your eye out for a peavey special 130 or Nashville 400. Easier to get your sound and volume from an amp rather than having the sound feed you into a monitor. Also some places may only have enough monitors for the singer! |
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Chris Tarrow
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Maplewood, NJ
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Posted 22 Aug 2022 12:24 pm
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| I should add: milkman 100 may be the exception, but every amp sim I’ve ever tried never had enough headroom for steel, not what they were designed to do. The UA pedal especially is chasing a 65 deluxe which at 22 watts breaks up pretty fast. Nice for guitars not great for steel. On a budget I’d go with a SS Peavey every time. |
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Steve Lipsey
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2022 1:21 pm
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Well...don't know the others...but with 2 speakers, the Milkman 100 provides 200 watts (that's how solid-state power amps work, power depends on total speaker impedance).
And it isn't an "amp simulator", it is a real Fender-based tube preamp with a solid-state power amp, Since you aren't likely to want to overdrive the power amp, you don't lose much by not having tubes there...
I have both a 10" and 12" Jupiter speaker (the 12" is lovely, the 10" is a little mid-rangey but that is fine) and just bring the cab or cabs depending on how loud I'll need to be...and how much weight I feel like carrying...and whether I'll be mic'ed.
And often just going into the PA is fine - the amp has a cabinet simulator that does an OK job...
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Doug Palmer
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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2022 5:16 pm Amps
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I use a Milkman 50 on my low volume gigs and it is great. If they have a good PA and soundman the low z output is fabulous for large venues.
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Patrick Little
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Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2022 12:48 pm
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The UAD Dream pedal is currently my goto amp for live gigs when I can go direct, and for 100% of my recording work.
As Chris mentioned, they break up real fast but as long as your Input is turned down all the way, and your Output is turned up almost all the way (I keep it at  , it's as close to my ideal tone that I've ever heard.
I don't want to knock the other options as well, I also use a Line 6 HX Stomp and I bought a couple IRs from Eminence and I was really impressed.
I also ran a compressor in parallel after the IR block and I really like the results.
Best part about the pedal in an amp option is there's no mics to worry about, just hand your sound engineer some XLRs and you're ready to go.
I previously owned the Milkman The Amp 50 and it broke up too fast for me.
I've heard the 100 is easier to tame and it's also still a real amp at the end of the day. |
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Josh Braun
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Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2022 7:36 am
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I've used the Milkman in the past, though now I use a Fender Twin Tone Master (digital emulation) - works wonderfully.
One product you didn't mention is the Line 6 HX Stomp. I use it for home practice with amp sim direct into a mixer in my practice room. Using one of the Fender models (I think it's a Deluxe or Twin) it sounds gorgeous - I'd play out direct with it in a second without worry. |
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 27 Aug 2022 4:44 pm
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| I love my Quilter Superblock US for my lap steel and Fender pedal steel but Im not sure if it can get the modern pedal steel sound. |
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